Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.


Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.

Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
freak
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freak

The way I read this article was that it is detrimental to a marriage to have BOTH spouses have challenging careers and no alternate support system at home. Well duh. No news there. I don’t think that BOLD statement warrants an article.

From a male-female standpoint… the article seemed to indicate that:

* It’s okay for a GUY to go out to the workplace, meet new and interesting people, find someone he wants to have an affair with, etc. It is NOT okay for a woman to do the same
* Men with smart, career oriented wives are not interesting enough to hold thier attention – the only way to keep their wife is to box them up so that they don’t have a chance to meet anyone else – sad that he’s so insecure about that
* Raising children and cleaning house are secret skills that only women have. Men are, apparently, too incompetent to be up to the task… either that or they’re lazy jerks living in the dark ages.

I figure –

Girls: A word of advice. Marry pretty menor ugly ones. Short ones or tall ones. Blondes or brunettes. Just, whatever you do, don’t marry a man with a career. Your house will be dirty, your kids will be wallowing in the filth and he’ll be out tipping over his secretary because you can’t hold his attention if he’s exposed to other women.

Pathetic.

Surprisingly, this article didn’t piss me off as much as I woud expect… but I did feel sad for Mr. Noer’s wife – she has a very stupid and insecure man for a husband… I assume he’s married – though no sane woman *I* know would care to shackle herself to someone with these opinions.

08-24-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
PolishKnight
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PolishKnight

Another perfect example of a rebuttal proving a point: He was saying that career women were ambivalent and independent and didn’t value marriage with men. Shouldn’t liberated women who supposedly can handle dissent and conflict in the office be made up of tougher stuff?

08-24-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
Marta2003
Regular Contributor
Marta2003

PolishKnight wrote:
Shouldn’t liberated women who supposedly can handle dissent and conflict in the office be made up of tougher stuff?

The poster to whom you replied turned the article on its head, with nary a hint of being insulted. Did you even read what they wrote?

Clearly not. Try again.

Then come back and make a substantive argument. As of now you haven’t addressed a single point made.

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-24-2006 03:35 PM

08-24-2006 03:34 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
katiebelle
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katiebelle
thats not what he was saying at all polish knight, and frankly your vapid responses are only proving the point of a rather derogatory stereotype polish people are attributed to have.

08-24-2006 03:36 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
Drakimus
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Drakimus
Are you sure you read the article? We are talk about this article right?
http://www.forbes.com/home/2006/08/23/Marriage-Careers-Divorce_cx_mn_land.html

Where the hell does it say “It’s okay for a GUY to go out to the workplace, meet new and interesting people, find someone he wants to have an affair with, etc. It is NOT okay for a woman to do the same”

Here is a quote:

“According to a wide-ranging review of the published literature, highly educated people are more likely to have had extra-marital sex (those with graduate degrees are 1.75 more likely to have cheated than those with high school diplomas.) Additionally, individuals who earn more than $30,000 a year are more likely to cheat.”

Where the hell does it say women only? Has it ever occurred to you, the that excerpt applies to BOTH gender? Really am I missing something here? Was there invisible text that got zapped by Martians?

[quote]”Men with smart, career oriented wives are not interesting enough to hold their attention – the only way to keep their wife is to box them up so that they don’t have a chance to meet anyone else – sad that he’s so insecure about that

Raising children and cleaning house are secret skills that only women have. Men are, apparently, too incompetent to be up to the task… either that or they’re lazy jerks living in the dark ages.”[/quote]

I thought the whole **bleep** article was him telling single guys not to marry career women. I do not recall this article being a HOW-TO-GUIDE for men to manipulate and control women.

A word of advice. If you want to refute someone, or disapprove of their claims, try to actually attack his points and arguments. It’s ironic he has a one blalantly major hole in his arguments and so few people discuss about it. In many ways you only are substantiating his claims by resorting to low blows and personal attacks.

Message Edited by Drakimus on 08-24-2006 03:48 PM

08-24-2006 03:44 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
freak
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freak

*laughing*

no need to jump on polishknight… he (i’m assuming he’s a he) has not been lucky enough to experience a smart, assertive, caring woman with integrity… at least not one who wanted to know him.

Seriously – I am lucky to know some very interesting and intelligent men and women… people who somehow manage to work out their personal goals and career goals. People who have good communication in their relationships and who can work out the allocation of responsibiltity within their relationship. These people manage to get past the stereotypical roles because they are strong individuals who are able to build their own roles. Most of them in successful marriages because they love their spouse enough to work out the glitches that come with supporting someone else’s goals as well as your own.

For me, I couldn’t stand being in a marriage where I didn’t trust my spouse not to run off with the next person they meet. I couldn’t stand being in a position where I wasn’t trusted not to run off either.

I want to understand my spouse, work out, between the two of us, what our priorities are – and then work as a TEAM to make it happen… WAY easier than making sure that one of us is locked up at all times.

08-24-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
freak
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freak

The lovely thing Drakamas is that you are welcome to follow his advice. The article, if you are fair, advocated for men to keep with the traditional roles – if they wanted a successful marriage.

I see nothing wrong with that. If it works for you – more power to you.

For my part – I feel that his article would have been less controversial if he had used the statistics to show that marriages where both spouses work are more likely to fail.

As he did spin it as advice to men… and, through his presentation… as an editorial – expect that there will be response.

08-24-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
PolishKnight
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PolishKnight

thats not what he was saying at all polish knight, and frankly your vapid responses are only proving the point of a rather derogatory stereotype polish people are attributed to have.

Welcome to the states where every ethnic group has had derogatory stereotypes made about them including them being stupid. Theoretically, such behaviour was supposed to be dismissed as bigoted. My father always laughed when someone said Poles were stupid by responding: “Have you ever tried to understand Polish?” Stupid Pole jokes have now become outdated and just converted into blonde jokes.

I stand by my point: If someone is secure and liberated and independent, blah blah blah, they shouldn’t get all huffy when challenged and argued against.

08-24-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Don’t worry Mr. Noer, after this, most career women wouldn’t want to marry you.
freak
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freak

PolishKnight – it sounds like you’re getting huffy.

Doesn’t bode well for us viewing you as in intelligent.. what was that?… blah blah blah.

If you aren’t huffy… please don’t assume someone else is.

08-24-2006 05:40 PM

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