Thought Police


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Thought Police
C2shiningC

We already know that individual thought is no longer allowed in this country if it bucks political correctness.

What’s next? Banning articles based on the results of scientific research if it doesn’t agree with your paradigm of “Acceptable Thought”?

08-24-2006 04:22 AM

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Re: Thought Police
Marta2003

Um, last time I checked, we’re allowed to complain, write LTTE, and threaten to boycott when we don’t like something.

Sounds like it’s you who has a problem with free speech, not us.

08-24-2006 04:45 AM

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Re: Thought Police
yohan

You might complain, but you cannot change the results of a serious research, regardless if you like the results or not.

The problem is not, that you are complaining, but that you feel insulted, if others are complaining about you… this syndrome is called feminism.

08-24-2006 05:02 AM

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Re: Thought Police
C2shiningC

Um, last time I checked, I’m allowed to post a thought. At least until the Thought Police burn my book Fahrenheit 451.

08-24-2006 05:06 AM

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Re: Thought Police
01035134

“You might complain, but you cannot change the results of a serious research, regardless if you like the results or not.”

A very interesting point, you cannot change the actual results of serious research, but you can mislead intentionally by selectively using results which agree with your thesis, and not acknowledging the rest of the academic paper which may prove otherwise.

This article does not question why modern marriages break down, rather it uses career women as a scapegoat.

“The problem is not, that you are complaining, but that you feel insulted, if others are complaining about you… this syndrome is called feminism.”

I’m afraid the reactions to this article are to be expected when one group of society, which has undergone centuries of oppression, is described in this manner. Oh and this “feminism” you speak of, may I assume it bears some relation to feminism???

Message Edited by 01035134 on 08-24-2006 06:28 AM

08-24-2006 06:27 AM

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Re: Thought Police
yohan

you cannot change the actual results of serious research, but you can mislead intentionally by selectively using results which agree with your thesis, and not acknowledging the rest of the academic paper which may prove otherwise.

Can you post here the ‘rest of the academic paper’, which does not agree with this thesis and ‘might’ prove otherwise?

one group of society, which has undergone centuries of oppression, is described in this manner

Same as today, same in the past, some women were oppressed by men (and also by women), but some others are / were highly influential and oppressed / are oppressing others…

Men were also oppressed in the past, not long time ago young US-men were forced to fight and die in Korea and Vietnam, to give you one example…against their will, while US-women had and still have no obligation to contribute anything related to the American military services.

If a man or a woman is oppressed, does not depend on the gender, but on their position in society. A male black slave was oppressed, his white female owner was not…

It is a difference between being oppressed and to feel to be oppressed and talking bullshit.

How can you claim to be oppressed, and on the other side be a career woman?
Something wrong with feminist logic….

08-24-2006 07:20 AM

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Re: Thought Police
duerra

You make a good point, yohan. Also, it bugs me when people use historical oppression as a reason for complaining today.

How about all the men out there that are feeling oppressed by all the newfound sexually liberated women out there that use sex as a bartering tool? Women in today’s society have a one-up on men, and they know it, use it, and exploit it. Often times today, except in the most powerful positions, it’s not women who are oppressed anymore – it’s men.

08-24-2006 09:19 AM

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Re: Thought Police
sja

hahaha ! we men are so skilled at whining šŸ™‚

Women *were* definitely oppressed, are still feeling so for good reasons:

How often do you feel addressed by a woman looking at you like an object? Have to say it does happen, but as a man it’s much less likely I’ll take it as an aggression, and *it does not happen 5 times in each street corner and metro*!

Ok, maybe sometime it’s a pleasure, and certainly for *some* women it’s a sport. But as a man I am observing how we react and the reaction of women to our more-or-less discreet/disturbing peeks, and I guarantee you that it’s not a rewarding, self-confidence feeding experience for the observed person. Didn’t you notice that most women in public transports watch fixedly in front of them all along? Looks like an oppressed person to me.. You can then say “let her live with it, she doesn’t need to fell that way!”, but that’s just ignoring her situation, not putting yourself in her place..

But that’s just one aspect of it..: think about rapes, aggressions, sexual mobbing, etc. etc. Men are also at risk, but frankly, how often do you think about it?

Also, each month I read about a men or two who shot their wives/girlfriend (and often their kids on the way), how often is the contrary? I suppose it’s because men are so oppressed by successful wives leaving them for younger partners..

So, women were oppressed for centuries. If, like duerra says, we -men- are now on turn, well, then better get used to it if it’s gonna last as long!

Seriously, I just think that men *still* haven’t accepted the concurrence of women.. And instead to find a new balance, we still look back at the time when we didn’t need to think about it..:

“Marry any women, smart or not, beautiful or not, anyway she’ll quit her job (or do some part-time something for entertainment), raise your children and will never divorce you -or she’ll be the shame of the family and neighbourhood (or you’ll shoot her). In your professional life you’ll be confronted only with men, who speak the same language and have the same schemes and strategies than you, so no unknown to be feared.”

Well, not anymore.. They’ve learned our ways, they even pushed theirs (emotional intelligence, etc.), so what will you do? Man had respect due by default but now, heck, need to fight for it…

Get. used. to. it…

08-24-2006 02:12 PM

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Re: Thought Police
yohan

sja:
But that’s just one aspect of it..: think about rapes, aggressions, sexual mobbing, etc. etc. Men are also at risk, but frankly, how often do you think about it?
They’ve learned our ways, they even pushed theirs (emotional intelligence, etc.), so what will you do? Man had respect due by default but now, heck, need to fight for it…
Get. used. to. it…

If we talk about rape, we have to talk about false rape allegations – women are more likely mistreating children than men ….and so on…

‘Get. used. to. it…’ Why? – I see no reason to do that.
The alternate solution is to look for a foreign wife and to ignore the American woman completely.

No US-law can force you to accept an US-woman for marriage. Either stay single or get on an airplane and look for somebody else outside USA.

08-24-2006 03:18 PM

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