Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material


Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material

Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

Stop flattering yourselves, ladies.

The issue here isn’t that men are intimidated by or frightened of “brilliant, motivated, educated, successful” career women. The idea that men can’t handle career women is a myth. Personally, I enjoy handling career women. Even two or three of them at the same time. Especially in bed.

No, the point of the article is, such women don’t make good wives. It’s just not in a man’s best interests to pursue these women, if he is interested in a stable, lasting marriage and children.

08-25-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
28green
Newbie
28green

How long have you been walking upright?

08-25-2006 02:12 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad
Have you considered whether or not you’d make a good husband? I gather from your nickname that you work for a hedge fund, so perhaps you’ve got some cash. But that appears as though that might be all you’ve got to offer (aside from a few STDs), so what kind of quality woman would be attracted to that?

08-25-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Veruschka
Visitor
Veruschka

Hedgie,

You are not intimidated, but you are not mature either.

That’s the madonna/whore complex.  Women are either fun in bed or maternal and caring wife material.   Many women are actually both. We have depth, you know. It is unsatisfying to have to be one or the other.

It’s just as shallow as a woman saying that they have fun in bed with hot 21-year old cabana boys, but only men who make six figures are marriage material.

08-25-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Spaulding
Visitor
Spaulding

Hedgie, excellent observation and one I’ve never thought about.  Career women are fun to handle in bed.  I wonder if it is all of that pent up frustration from working in a male dominated work environment?

08-25-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
toadman
Regular Contributor
toadman

There’s no hatred at all. It’s a win-win for both where desiring a relationship with one another is out of the cards.

Men don’t want a workaholic aggressive spouse working late-nights from home, negotiating deals on the cell, planning presentations on the PC until the wee hours while making dinner for the kids any more than you would a husband. The last thing a man wants is domestic confrontations, intellectual dodging and complaining when the past 8-10 hours at work have exceeded the daily allowance. No one is asking to be pampered or to fetch the pipe and slippers, merely peace, stability and quiet time to unwind. Career women rarely compartmentalize the day nor are out of reach of their ringing cell.

No anger, no animosity, it’s just not a desireable or fulfilling lifestyle for most family-minded men who are voting with their feet.

08-25-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Antiriad
Regular Contributor
Antiriad

dumbbroad wrote:
Have you considered whether or not you’d make a good husband? I gather from your nickname that you work for a hedge fund, so perhaps you’ve got some cash. But that appears as though that might be all you’ve got to offer (aside from a few STDs), so what kind of quality woman would be attracted to that?

Women are more attracted to wealth and security than you seem to think. This is of course why they – including the career seeking types – in generally expect to marry up. You can trick society – but you can’t trick your own biology.

08-25-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad
“Career women rarely compartmentalize the day nor are out of reach of their ringing cell.”

— uh, so what’s the definition of a career woman again? top executives? i have a job, but can leave it at the office at the end of the day. sometimes i have to travel or work on something over the weekend, but it doesn’t dominate my life. and the idea that a non-career woman will automatically be able to create a quiet, soothing home environment is also a little crazy. toddlers are way more disruptive than a ringing cell phone!

08-25-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
thisisdumb
Visitor
thisisdumb

Stop kidding yourself. Your loyal, loving stay at home wife/mother may well decide one day that she is bored. Unhappy. Unfulfilled. And that she wants to go to work, volunteer, travel. Anything besides simply staying at home.

What will you do then? Chain her to the kitchen sink? Divorce her and find a new wife? Clearly that would make a man no better than the selfish feminist career harpies he despises.

People have dreams and goals that change over time. A good marriage allows for both partners to be satisfied in and outside the home, rolling with the punches along the way.

Of course, the new solution for men to this problem is to marry a woman with far few economic prospects. I love how these neo-traditional men think that by marrying women from third world countries they will somehow avoid the horrors of women who have brains and ambitions outside the home. As if being born in Brazil or China makes one immune to the growing opportunities of women in the modern world and ensures a lifelong satisfaction with traditional marriage and family life. Newsflash gentleman: feminism has gone third world. Women all over the globe are opening up businesses, educating themselves and standing up against sexism and abuse. The vast majority will still want a loving man by her side and a happy stable home. But a decreasing few will want a man who limits her life, dreams and spirit.

08-25-2006 02:31 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

Dumbbroad:

Yes, actually, I have. I used to think I would make an ideal husband. (And perhaps someday I will). But that was before the cynicism took hold. Don’t get me wrong. I meet lots of women. And I get lots of  p*ssy. But they’re not the kind of girls I would be willing to marry, or bring home to mom and dad. For one thing, many of them are older, married, or divorced, with kids, with important careers.

08-25-2006 02:31 PM

==============================================================================
Click on the board or message subject at the top to return.

Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Master
Visitor
Master
Ha!

It might be the case that Hedgie is actually sleeping with some of the same “career women” who post on this site. It is actually the “career women” who are most attracted to hedge fund guys.

08-25-2006 02:32 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

No doubt. There are certainly plenty of willing cougars in my neck of the woods. Women’s lib has been a godsend for guys like me.

08-25-2006 02:36 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
grrlpower
Contributor
grrlpower

from the sound of you, dear HEDGIE, you probably pay for most of the P*ssy you get. even if you don’t, there are a lot of dumb girls out there.

i cannot believe you would make an ideal husband on any front. you really have a sad, out of date view of women and i feel bad for your family – your mother, any kids you might have and of course any woman that would be ignorant enough to marry you.

08-25-2006 02:36 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad
“Women are more attracted to wealth and security than you seem to think. This is of course why they – including the career seeking types – in generally expect to marry up. You can trick society – but you can’t trick your own biology.”

I’d agree that I’m attracted to security. It didn’t work out with the last boyfriend partially because every year he wanted to uproot and move somewhere new, start a new career, buy a different car, trade in the old for the new in every facet of his life. It was unnerving and didn’t make me feel like I could rely on him to be there for the long run. But finances are not the biggest factor for me. Do I want my husband to be responsible with money? Yes. Do I want him to pursue a job that makes him happy? Yes. Do I need my husband to be in a certain tax bracket for me to consider marriage? No.

08-25-2006 02:37 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Antiriad
Regular Contributor
Antiriad

Of course, the new solution for men to this problem is to marry a woman with far few economic prospects. I love how these neo-traditional men think that by marrying women from third world countries they will somehow avoid the horrors of women who have brains and ambitions outside the home. As if being born in Brazil or China makes one immune to the growing opportunities of women in the modern world and ensures a lifelong satisfaction with traditional marriage and family life. Newsflash gentleman: feminism has gone third world. Women all over the globe are opening up businesses, educating themselves and standing up against sexism and abuse. The vast majority will still want a loving man by her side and a happy stable home. But a decreasing few will want a man who limits her life, dreams and spirit.

Guess again. Western feminists tried to influence women in third world countries. Guess what happened? The women got angry and kicked them out. They know full well that feminism does not stand for equality, but rather for egocentrism, entitlement, and perpetual victimology.

08-25-2006 02:39 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad

Hedgie wrote:
Dumbbroad:

I get lots of  p*ssy. But they’re not the kind of girls I would be willing to marry, or bring home to mom and dad.

So why even pursue them or accept their advances? You are the company you keep.

08-25-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

Grrlpower:

The bottom line is, I don’t care. And why should I? Your remarks mean nothing to me. I have a great job, money, sex, toys, and a busy life with friends, the beach, vacations, etc. I don’t need a wife. Nor, given the standard of female prevailing in the US, do I want one. As I said, I get plenty of p*ssy, courtesy of all of the liberated women (married and single) out there.  I can be as free and irresponsible as I want.

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-25-2006 02:44 PM

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-25-2006 02:45 PM

08-25-2006 02:43 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
toadman
Regular Contributor
toadman

And along those lines, how many foreign men actually find the American Career Woman attractive? Other than the odd few sheiks, Jamaicans or Frenchmen looking for an easy lay or simply out of curiosity, how many actually settle down to raise a family overseas? How many meet family approval( a huge influence everywhere excluding the West)?

08-25-2006 02:48 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Spaulding
Visitor
Spaulding

Men pursue “career women” because they tend to be more fun in bed, in my opinion.  With that said, just because they are a good roll in the hay, doesn’t mean you want to marry them.

08-25-2006 02:49 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad

Hedgie wrote:

Grrlpower:

The bottom line is, I don’t care. And why should I? Your remarks mean nothing to me. I have a great job, money, sex, toys, and a busy life with friends, the beach, vacations, etc. I don’t need a wife. Nor, given the standard of female prevailing in the US, do I want one. As I said, I get plenty of p*ssy, courtesy of all of the liberated women (married and single) out there.  I can be as free and irresponsible as I want.

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-25-2006 02:44 PM

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-25-2006 02:45 PM

alright then. enjoy the toys …

08-25-2006 02:49 PM

==============================================================================
Click on the board or message subject at the top to return.

Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

“So why even pursue them or accept their advances?”

S-E-X. It’s heart-numbing, yes, but I’d have to be out of my mind to spurn the advances of an attractive woman, especially one who is older and sophisticated. But that doesn’t mean I would marry her.

08-25-2006 02:52 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
lawgirl
Contributor
lawgirl
From your comments, it seems you think once you get married you will automatically be bored with your stay at home wife. I pity you since you´ll miss out on having a smart, sexy woman who can do wonders for you in bed as well as your family life, simply because you think a career automatically makes you bitchy and too demanding. Think again. A woman that dedicates her life to raising children and taking care of her home has to be demanding, responsible, smart, and enjoy multitasking, among other things, since is is a 24 hour a day job without pay! So don´t be surprised when you get home one day to find your wife annoyed, angry o simply tired without any interest to cater to your needs, because she has been tending to plenty of other things all day long.

08-25-2006 02:53 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
dumbbroad
Regular Contributor
dumbbroad

Hedgie wrote:
“So why even pursue them or accept their advances?”

S-E-X. It’s heart-numbing, yes, but I’d have to be out of my mind to spurn the advances of an attractive woman, especially one who is older and sophisticated. But that doesn’t mean I would marry her.

Well then you can’t really complain about anything. If I came in her and complained about all the jerks I encountered, but then revealed that I slept with them anyway just for kicks, you’d probably tell me it was my own fault for continuing to hang out with miserable people.

08-25-2006 02:56 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
MissKimmm
Visitor
MissKimmm

Listen up ladies, this is how most men really think.  That’s right the guy you’re sleeping with now. If you think you’re going to change (how many?) years of evolution you’re insane.  What did one women say “I thought we’d evolved” What a joke! This is what happens when women don’t take math and science.

08-25-2006 02:58 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

Toadman,

Among Muslims and Asians you’ll find many men who return to the homeland for a wife, or look only within their little community. It’s very common.

Western women simply aren’t held in very high regard.

It’s tragic, really.

08-25-2006 02:58 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
PolishKnight
Contributor
PolishKnight

<i>Stop kidding yourself. Your loyal, loving stay at home wife/mother may well decide one day that she is bored. Unhappy. Unfulfilled. And that she wants to go to work, volunteer, travel. Anything besides simply staying at home.

What will you do then? Chain her to the kitchen sink? Divorce her and find a new wife? Clearly that would make a man no better than the selfish feminist career harpies he despises. </i>

It’s funny to hear you say that.  The new “status symbol” for middle class women is the ability to become a SAH housewife.  Programs such as HGTV and Martha Stewart draw women viewers with their discussions on how to make elaborate gardens or volunteer at local charities, or throw elaborate parties.

That last one is a biggie: Feminism ironically became popular precisely because, from how you put it, women could hang around at home and get bored and then go out and protest about how tough they had it.  Today’s career woman is more likely to be tired after a 60 hour work week to protest.  Is that a step up?

Ironically, it’s mostly the feminists who want to “chain” men and treat them as slaves to pay taxes for a host of social programs to benefit mostly a certain class of women or chase after them for “child-support” to pay for unwanted **bleep** children when she forgets to take her pill and suddenly discovers she “pro-life” (and over 35).  The patriarchy is going to be around forever if only because feminists can’t imagine cutting the apron strings.

08-25-2006 02:59 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
pinkpantie80
Visitor
pinkpantie80

I totally agree with you.

08-25-2006 03:21 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
CH
Contributor
CH
It pains me to do so because of some of the crass remarks posted, but I have to agree with the guys on this. It’s a shame that cynicism has driven good men to see women as a quick fling and women to see men as nothing but oppressors. Neither men nor women can have it all. I don’t know too many fathers who are happy that their kids have been put to bed long before they ever get home from the office. When did that kind of lifestyle become something that women aspire to?

08-25-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
froggy
Newbie
froggy

Not all women choose to take on a career, some are simply forced into this way of life to support themselves. In truth there seem to be fewer and fewer viable candidates for marriage. I am discouraged that the men I meet lately are not mature enough to make a commitment to a marriage partner. Perhaps they are influenced too much by the sad state of media, including misogynist rap music, crappy hollywood movies and the immoral stars that make them, etc. etc.  Many men have attitudes similar to yours; that woman is fun to date, but not to marry. This doesn’t seem to be a very respectful attitude to take towards any woman. All women are/were someone’s daughter or sister or mother. Are you saying that some of them are just good for a *&%# ……or maybe I just say go &^%$ your own mother!

08-25-2006 05:07 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

The discussion is focusing on women who choose a career versus a mere job.

08-25-2006 06:00 PM

==============================================================================
Click on the board or message subject at the top to return.

Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
pattipatpat
Visitor
pattipatpat

I think it’s very sad that the article highlighted the mismatch in today’s society with women achieving and sometimes being forced to achieve through economic necessity and the apparently large amount of males who resent this and would prefer a tame and acquiescent wife, to maintain the status quo of yesteryear.  I unfortunately think it’s true that many men prefer a lap dog/servant to an equal partner and this may be why there is a huge pool of educated, unmarried women all over the world and also a huge pool of poorly educated, unmarried men.  What to do?  Should women become servants again?  From current trends it seems a lot of them are choosing to do so.  God.

08-25-2006 06:13 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
froggy
Newbie
froggy

You don’t understand the concept of a career vs. a job. I see it as such, a job is something you do to subsist, but you don’t necessisarily have to choose a career either….I did not plan to make what I do a career that would prevent me from the chance to get married.  But, if I want to do more than subsist, then sure, I have to get some education and work more than 35hrs a week and sometimes my house is messy! So what! I do more than just a job…it became a career because there were/are no viable marriage candidates that have yet appeared and I wanted to do more than just sit around and wait….so I end up buying a house and having to pay for foundation repairs due to drought and it makes me bitter that people say…”Hey, it would be easier if you were married!” and yeah, that might be true considering it is expensive to try and make it on a woman’s salary, which is statistically not equal to male collegues’ salaries….but according to the Forbes article, now I am not “fit” to marry??!!??!!  This is a sad excuse for the real problem. People cannot make real commitments, and women who work are looked down on by such misogynists as you with your “Fun in bed, but not for marriage” attitude.  Despite what odds there may be against staying married, i.e. divorce rate, my being “unfit” and now “bitter,” I still want to get married and hope to find a person who is kind and respectful of me as a human being. I may want to continue to work, too, since I am good at what I do. I just find this whole business of trying to meet a nice person with decent morals so depressing. There obviously are very few such people out there and this type of bad publicity for women in the workforce seems very shamefully one-sided. The Forbes article seems to be written from the male viewpoint…and most men do look to women only for sex and a nice, comfortable home life. I resent people thinking they can string women like me along and just use us for sex and then make no commitment, but that is what it sounds like you are saying.

08-25-2006 07:21 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Hedgie
Regular Contributor
Hedgie

Froggy wrote:

“I resent people thinking they can string women like me along and just use us for sex and then make no commitment, but that is what it sounds like you are saying.”

Believe me, darling, there’s nothing I wouldn’t like more than to find a nice, traditional woman, marry her, and start a family. But a feminist career woman would be a hugely inappropriate choice, which is what the Forbes.com article was saying. You know it, I know it, most men know it. It’s that simple.

Given the degraded culture in which we live, I’ll take what I can get, which is why I spend my time (and money) on cougars. Don’t blame me. Feminism and women’s lib have made such a life possible.

You seem like a nice girl, but you also seem hurt by what you’re reading here. There are a lot of bitter, angry people posting on this board. Maybe you should take a break.

08-25-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
blaineso
Contributor
blaineso
I get plenty of p*ssy, courtesy of all of the liberated women (married and single) out there. I can be as free and irresponsible as I want.

–> until she gets pregnant. Then you will know hell: a woman with means, built-in & presumed victimhood (by virtue of being a woman), attitude (how DARE you not want to be with me), and a combination of puppet strings and a huge club (the court system & your child) to wield.

p.s. watch out for holes in condoms: keep them under lock and key (seriously).

08-26-2006 11:56 AM

Re: Career women can be fun–but they’re not marriage material
Elle
Newbie
Elle

I’m destined to be one of these career women (read: sluts) because I’m not marriage material either.  I’m black and dark.  I know none of you hedge fund pricks would marry Blackie, admit it.  Plus by white standards I’m fat with too big of an a$$ and hips.  So I want mixed-race daughters so they won’t feel like “always a bridesmaid, never a bride” next to thin cream-colored and white girlfriends.  But the only way to have mulatta girls is to marry a white guy.  And that brings us back to square one of not being marriage material doesn’t it white boys?  So marriage is not in the cards for me and I will have the mulatto child on my own and raise it alone.

I’m already a career whore and I don’t even have a career yet nor am I a feminist, but because I’m black, I’m white guy’s cumbucket.  That’s fine, I enjoy sex as much as the next guy, I was just hoping like Hedgie to one day settle down, have help raising a family, and have help buying a nice house, and fit in in the suburbs.  I have gotten used to the idea of not ever getting married.  Even if I limited myself to black guys: 40% of black women never get married (although most only go for black guys) and 70% of black households are headed by single women.

So you career women who feel dissed, don’t feel bad.  You would be just as overlooked for marriage if you happened to have been born black, especially if darker than an old-fashioned ruler.

And to whoever said sheiks look down on American women, HA, guess what women all over the world look down on Muslim men.

09-04-2007 07:35 PM

==============================================================================
Click on the board or message subject at the top to return.

Advertisements
%d bloggers like this: