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Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – I love it!

I love it!
Hedgie
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Hedgie

I enjoyed the article. Bravo to Forbes for having the b*lls to publish it.

For young, male, educated, successful professionals–such as myself–the advice on forming signficant relationships with career women is old news.

Such women, I think many would agree, are good for sex and games, but little else. God knows I’ve bagged a few dozen cougars in my time, and had a blast doing it, but I wouldn’t dream of marrying them. If a guy wants to marry and start a family, he should avoid career women. It’s not in his best interests to pursue them.

Put another way, a self-absorbed woman who places her career over the interests of husband and children is unlikely to make a good wife and/or mother. It’s that simple. Get it?

I suspect the stereotypical career woman is a white, educated Westerner. My advice for other men is to seek out non-Western women. Most of the world’s women hail from traditional cultures. Personally, I prefer South American and Middle Eastern women.

The good news is, women who devote their lives to a career have time for little else, namely children, and often remain childless. These women and their kind are dying out. Taking the long view, the ideology that demands women forsake or neglect marriage and children in favor of a “career” is an aberration. It is unsustainable.

When it comes to men and women, marriage, and the family, the traditionalists shall inherit the earth.

Finally, if female professionals are going to get their panties in a twist over an Op-Ed piece with which they happen to disagree, they shouldn’t even be in the workplace in the first place. I mean, grow up already, ladies.

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-24-2006 06:45 PM

08-24-2006 06:41 PM

Re: I love it!
Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen
Excellent advice, Hedgie!

“With women or the female mindset imparted through feminization on the vast majority of society, it will be very easy to control the Empire…I mean…the republic.” – mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com

08-24-2006 07:42 PM

Re: I love it!
Pelican
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Pelican
As a young, female, educated, successful professional, I just found this article to be somewhat bizarre. The threshold for “career woman”, according to the article, is for her to have a uni education, work outside the home 35 hours a week, and earn 30k per year. Unfortunately, there aren’t many single women with uni certificates who don’t automatically fall into the latter two categories, unless she’s got family money coming in, so that makes all university grad women out of range for men in general, apparently. What are we supposed to do, open every date with “…but don’t worry, I’ll gladly make myself completely vulnerable by dropping a career and requiring you to make no compromise whatsoever”?

What bothered me about this article wasn’t the angle — I know men like this are out there, and I’m not particularly interested in trying to change their minds because I think they’re something of a dying breed (there are plenty of men out there who take a much more balanced view of relationships). What bothered me was that the author attacked his subject from the standpoint “Male breadwinners and female homemakers are the most satisfactory balance in life” and didn’t bother to ever examine his own argument. Every point he made was compared with his “ideal”, then judged harshly (and often without perspective). The hastily-posted rebuttal doesn’t help matters much, given it had to be written quickly and mainly relies on anecdote.

To pick one point: You say women without a BA are less likely to divorce than those who do have a degree? Obviously! The sort of stay-at-home, no-career-fallback woman this article holds up as a perfect wife is isolated. She might be trapped in an unhappy marriage, but could feel her chances to survive outside the marriage are slim. A woman with a career to fall back on and with a connection to the outside world is unlikely to stick around if she’s got the confidence to leave an unhappy situation.

Men eventually will get used to the idea that they don’t have to be the breadwinner, and women who have no desire to stay at home with their kids won’t feel that they’re required to do so. Societal judgement is powerful, and the atmosphere is still heavily prejudiced towards a “men work, women have kids” dynamic. It takes generations for this stuff to filter down; it’s only been half a century since girls were told they have to do Home Ec and boys were the only ones allowed into higher math courses. Parents will raise children who will grow up to be adults who then know that women don’t HAVE to stay home, and Dad doesn’t HAVE to be the one going to work. It’ll take time, but it’ll happen.

Until then, “traditional” men like the author are welcome to steer clear of educated women like myself. Clearly our definitions of “partnership” differ so drastically that the author is right in guessing that our marriage would be unsuitable and end in divorce — if he’s going to blame me for not noticing he’s not getting enough fiber in his diet, then he’s a bit high-maintainence for me anyhow.

08-24-2006 08:56 PM

Re: I love it!
tomshh
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tomshh

I think they’re something of a dying breed
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LMAO!!!!

Pelican is going to wait for men to just magically change.

LMAO!!!

What dream world do you live in? You think men or women will just magically change?

Well then we should start with taking men OUT of the military, as they have put in too much time, and have a female only military. See, according to you, women can just magically change.

Now once our country gets over run, maybe you will realize men are MEN and women are WOMEN.

The above quote, well, look at the marriage rate in the USA. It is at an all time low, and predicted to get lower. So NO men are not changing, they are saying…

“I can make money, I want to come HOME to a nice house, nice meal, and a relaxing evening. Not some whiney bimbo, talking about office politics, and eating McDonalds, in our over priced condo, full of useless junk I never wanted in the first place.”

Have fun being single, miserable, and desperate in dream land.

08-25-2006 12:24 AM

Re: I love it!
Pelican
Regular Contributor
Pelican
I don’t think I referred to magic at any point — more that society changes with generational shifts. Something that makes the older generation blanch with horror and start spouting about traditionalist values makes the younger generation shrug and say “That’s how it is now”. Magic would be thinking that this transitional phase we’re experiencing now (and which is causing this debate) wouldn’t happen.

Regardless, thank you for your concern about my future. Luckily, I don’t live in the US anymore — I live in a place where you get a month’s holiday every year, where an emergency operation won’t wipe me out, and where parental leave includes flexible hours that allow both parents to take part in child-rearing. So I’ll be fine.

08-25-2006 12:44 AM

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