Marriage Is Not Even An Option


Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Marriage Is Not Even An Option

Marriage Is Not Even An Option
Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen
Marry a Career Girl? Give me a break.

You can’t marry any American grrl these days.

The anti-male anti-father pro-feminist Family Court system has made marriage too risky of an investment with little or no reward.

Don’t Marry Period.

Go your own way.

“With women or the female mindset imparted through feminization on the vast majority of society, it will be very easy to control the Empire…I mean…the republic.” – mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com

08-25-2006 01:28 AM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

Yes, please do. Go your own way, far far away.

08-25-2006 01:29 AM

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toadman
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toadman

Oh we are cupcake, we are. Enjoy your cats.

08-25-2006 02:04 AM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

Dude, I have a man. A particularly hairy, manly man, no less.

Wrap your head around that.

08-25-2006 05:22 AM

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yohan
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yohan

Due to feminist laws offering equality to women, divorce is a possible high-risk rip-off for a husband, even if he did nothing wrong at all.

The wife might accuse him for all and everything, including serious crimes without any proof.
She will take away his house, his assets and requesting monthly pay of alimony….even if she is earning more than the husband.

The best solution is to ignore ALL American women!

08-25-2006 06:25 AM

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B24601
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B24601

Oh please, please, keep this attitude. American WOMEN really don’t want to be bothered with men like you. We’re far too busy with our smart, professional husbands.

08-25-2006 06:43 AM

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Pelican
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Pelican

yohan wrote:

Due to feminist laws offering equality to women, divorce is a possible high-risk rip-off for a husband, even if he did nothing wrong at all.

The wife might accuse him for all and everything, including serious crimes without any proof.

She will take away his house, his assets and requesting monthly pay of alimony….even if she is earning more than the husband.

The best solution is to ignore ALL American women!

All partnerships include a bit of risk. Marriages, business partnerships, anything where you tie yourself to someone else’s fortunes. And sometimes partnerships end, occasionally in a manner that is not beneficial for all involved. You took the risk in creating the partnership, so obviously, be careful when you make that choice.

But this sort of paranioa really will not serve you well in a marriage. You can never, ever have a 100% guarantee that a marriage will stick it out, and to go into it suspicious that your wife will screw you over — that’s just a self-fulfilling prophecy. Get a prenup if you’re that jumpy, and try not to drive your wife away with accusations.

And you really should be looking very hard at your priorities when you object to laws that advocate equal rights. I get the feeling that many men hear “feminism” and think “women taking over the earth”, when that’s really not the meaning of the movement. So no need to get worked about it.

08-25-2006 07:02 AM

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Cassius
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Cassius
About your risk line, how about getting a man making a baby and NOT getting married refusing the options a divorce would entitel you to ? There really is no reason to get married imo.

08-25-2006 08:16 AM

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mannersman
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mannersman
Amen! It’s all the bottom line for women = $

08-25-2006 08:31 AM

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Pelican
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Pelican
You mean just live together? When there’s a child involved, I would prefer marriage only because that legal union provides a safety net for the child in terms of plenty of insurance and legal capacities. If you’re living together without children, then the major factor for marriage is often the entire health insurance/legal guardianship thing.

I think it’s pretty important here to note that the money women recieve in a divorce is most often related to their children — the standard of care those children are used to, the mother having custody, etc. If a woman was the homemaker and now they’re divorcing, it’s most likely that the man will face limited custodianship and have to pay for the kids’ upkeep. But what better method would you advise?

You could avoid the risk of divorce by not getting married, yes, technically. But if you start a family or intend to be responsible for each other in old age, that opens you up to a set of other risks that I just don’t think are worth it.

08-25-2006 08:36 AM

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Hedgie
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Hedgie

I agree. American girls are poison. But don’t worry. The career women who advocate feminist claptrap are going to die off. The fact they don’t marry or have children means they and their kind won’t be around very long.

08-25-2006 09:12 AM

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Cassius
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Cassius
There is absolutely no control about the way a woman spends money that she recieves related to her children. In fact women spend just enough on their children to keep em alife and clothted regardless of the ammount of money they recieve. Must be why children of divorcees are more likely to end up doing minimum wage jobs. Just ask any kid who lived with their divorced mother how much of the money they saw that their dads payed to their mothers for them. While u have kids getting their benz for their 21st birthday children of divorced mothers start with zilch, nothing in life. What risks are you talking about, divorce is the biggest risk for a provider. Werent you the one to say a little bit of risk can not be avoided ? I think what you really did mean to say a little bit of risk (over 50% probability of a divorce) can not be avoided and all of it should rest squarely on the man. Before the 50s men and women did what they had to do then women started to say, why should we ? Now it is for us to say why should we. Why should I be responsibel for my Ex wife and children to the extent iam while women have absolutely zero responsibilities. Thats right, they can abort give the children away they are not forced to zilch. So pleeasse tell me why should i put myself in a position where i will be forced through the courts to pay against my will.

Message Edited by Cassius on 08-25-2006 09:33 AM

Message Edited by Cassius on 08-25-2006 09:40 AM

08-25-2006 09:29 AM

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Pelican
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Pelican
There’s no way to make all of this perfect. Marriages in the 50s and prior to that were not perfect; who knows what the statistics might’ve been for divorce in those days if divorce was widely allowed? Who knows how many spouses would have claimed to be unhappy or trapped?

There is no magic way to assure all men that when they marry a woman, she’s bound to them forever, no matter how sour the relationship gets, no matter how many kids they have. And men have to accept that they’re financially responsible for any kids they have. Women and men both have to learn to be better spouses and how to compromise. And still, things will go wrong. There’s no ironclad guarantee, and as idyllic as it must seem to be back in an age when your wife (and as seems alarmingly important in these discussions, your money) stay under your roof, that’s just not how it works. People have to adapt.

08-25-2006 09:50 AM

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Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen
Pelican, what cave have you been living in?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce

According to [Brinig 2000], women currently file slightly more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the US. There is some variation among states, and the numbers have also varied over time, with about 60% of filings by women in most of the 19th century, and over 70% by women in some states just after no-fault divorce was introduced, according to the paper.

A 2005 Census Bureau Report found that in 2002, $40 billion had been paid in support arrangements by 7.8 million payers, 84% of whom were men. States also collected federal incentives to collect support payments, with a potential incentive pool of up to $454 million in fiscal 2004. A media kit for the National Child Support Enforcement Association, a child support advocacy group, claims that 60,000 professionals work to administer and enforce child support arrangements.

The 2004 survey found that 93% of divorce cases were petitioned by women, very few of which were contested.

Regarding divorce settlements, as defined by this survey women obtained a better or considerably better settlement than men in 60% of cases. In 30% of cases the assets were split 50-50, and in only 10% of cases did men achieve better settlements.

As more women are awarded child custody, many of the roles and difficulties described below may be reversed, although men who are awarded custody have historically been less likely to be awarded child support or alimony.

“With women or the female mindset imparted through feminization on the vast majority of society, it will be very easy to control the Empire…I mean…the republic.” – mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com

08-25-2006 09:51 AM

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Pelican
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Pelican
Back, I saw those figures when you posted them in another thread. They omit some pretty significant factors, such as cause of divorce and custody of children, not to mention salary forecasts for the couples (if a woman with custody is only expected to earn 23k per year after the divorce and her ex pulls down 60k, she’s likely to get a better share). Also useful would be a comparison of the average divorced mother’s wage compared with that of a divorced husband, and then their monthly outgoings.

I’m not pointing out those discrepancies to be nitpicky, but to emphasise that the figures have many variables that are relevant to this discussion, so the Wiki scrape is probably overly simplistic.

(As for my cave: every continent outside the US, bar Antarctica.)

08-25-2006 09:57 AM

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BobbyPat
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BobbyPat

Guys: At the expense of invoking the ire of all the misandrists out there, and in keeping with the “don’t marry an American woman” sentiment, here’s a link that should be of interest to all single males out there:

http://www.russianlovematch.com

There are hundreds of beautiful Eastern European / Russian women of all age ranges who hold to traditional family values — i.e., family first. They want to leave the economic problems of their homelands — not to mention the reportedly 4-1 eligible-female-to-eligible-male ratios that exist in their countries — for a chance at true, everlasting love and family.

Many of the women are truly beautiful — “runway model” knock-outs! Definitely check it out. I guarantee that you won’t be sorry you took a look.

Cheers!

Bob in NJ

08-25-2006 10:16 AM

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moneyneversleep
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moneyneversleep

On the contrary, business partnerships carry less risk than marriage. Once you make a clean break in a bad business transaction you don’t continue paying for it infinitum, until you are dead or the woman remarries. You don’t continue maintaining the former business partners lifestyle to which they have become accustomed.

The facts are obvious that divorce typically favors women. They benefit more economically from engaging in divorce and that is why the divorce rate for 1st marriages is 50% and for 2nd marriages is nearly 70%. It is a legal method of wealth redistribution to those who have not earned it (women). That is why I counsel my staff and friends to never marry without a valid prenuptial agreement.

Please try to be more analytical, practical and pragmatic rather that so incredibly stupid.

08-25-2006 11:13 AM

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Cassius
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Cassius
I should be held financially responsibel for my kids ? Sorry but to me thats clearly anti male and discriminatory. The mother is not forced to keep or even support her kids in any way, why should the father be ? I know the law says so and since the law says so the law is wrong imo. You want to be a stay at home mom ? Fine that is your decision it is only fair that you take the risk for your decision after all i can not force my wife to go after a payed job. And who knows once you take the courts judges and lawyers off my back and talk to me like a civilized person instead of draggin me through the courts when you do not get what you want i might be willing to chip in for your kids. Thats right. The kids i father are the womans. You can ask any judge about it. If i want to be a father iam better off donating to a sperm bank thesedays its the same f thing only without the financial burden and that wasted sunday each 2 weeks travelling 4 hours so i and the kids can be miserabel toegether. Face it there is absolutly nothing NOTHING for a man in marriage but responsibility and accountability. Why should i strip myself of my rights ?

08-25-2006 11:34 AM

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Hedgie
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Hedgie

Yes, Russian and Eastern European women are very nice.

I prefer Brazilian and Hispanic women myself. And Middle Easterners.

It’s funny that we’re even debating this topic. In Europe, the Europeans are dying out because they are not reproducing. They are being replaced by Muslim and African immigrant populations with large families and high birthrates.

In the US, Americans are being replaced by Hispanics and Asians, who similarly have large families and high birthrates.

The “career woman” debate is quickly becoming a moot point. Sadly, American women are free to choose a career over marriage and a family, but let’s not pretend that that choice is not without enormous cost.

08-25-2006 12:19 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius
And if muslims or Africans are going to confront their men with divorce alimony and all that Jazz they will shrink too. Not to likely yet since there are families willing to shoot the women who dishonor the family.

08-25-2006 02:04 PM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

Hedgie wrote:
The career women who advocate feminist claptrap are going to die off. The fact they don’t marry or have children means they and their kind won’t be around very long.
Ah, another retard who believe ideas are propagated like genes: through breeding.

However did my non-feminist, SAHM of six ever produce me then?

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-26-2006 07:31 PM

08-26-2006 07:30 PM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-26-2006 07:30 PM

08-26-2006 07:30 PM

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yohan
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yohan

Marta2003: Ah, another retard ….
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Yes, we know, all what does not fit some radical feminists opinion, must be written by a retard…

Be reasonable!

09-03-2006 12:25 PM

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