The Problem is Women. They want it all.


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The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Cassius
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Cassius
The problem with career women is, they want it all. The looks the charm and most importantly the money. If she makes 100k a year she is not willing to marry to somone who does not make himself at least 100k a year because that would mean in a divorce situation she would be the one to pay alimony. Sooo with all the standards career women have they further reduce the pool of men to choose from by setting an minimum income level in order to be abel to be in a no risk marriage. If i would fit all the criteria ceo X wants she still will not marry my broke ass because that would mean she would have to fork over half her money which kind of happens automatically after a certain period of time spent married depending from state to state. In the end even if she gets lucky and finds a man who has it all the money too it is still no guarantee that he will say yes. Face it ladies you are the female equivalent to a man seeking a woman with supermodel like looks who is a whiz with cars and electronics tantra expert and a boatload full of money and assets.

08-24-2006 11:23 PM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
tomshh
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tomshh

They want it all, then most of them put in a half assed effort at everything, then blame EVERYONE else when they fail at all things.

Who still marries American women? Really? WTF?

The USA is the capitalist dream land. Use it to your advantage. Invest, make money, and get the hell out of this decaying society.

Leave it for the coward men scared to stand up to women, and the know it all women who blame everyone else.

08-25-2006 12:11 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Marta2003
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Marta2003

tomshh wrote:
The USA is the capitalist dream land. Use it to your advantage. Invest, make money, and get the hell out of this decaying society.

Leave it for the coward men scared to stand up to women, and the know it all women who blame everyone else.

Oh, the irony.

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-25-2006 01:33 AM

08-25-2006 01:33 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Antiriad
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What irony is that? The U.S. is functionally a matriarchal society today. Even if a select handful of men sit at the top, they cater to women (51% of the voters – “W stands for women,” anyone?) and the average man – who has absolutely no hope of reaching the highest levels to participate in any way in this so-called “patriarchy” which he is supposedly a member of on the contrary gets sh@t on by double standards that are codified into law today.

When a woman initiates domestic violence, the man is arrested by default. Under the age of 40, women are 15x more likely to be(come) mid-level managers than men (and it isn’t due to capability, experience, or effort – I assure you). For the exact same crime, a woman on average receives half the sentence (or less) of a man – and even then there are advocates who demand treatment for women rather than incarceration. Notably, you will find that many of these supporters at the highest levels are chivalrous men.

Where are the women who support men – who are obviously disadvantaged in every way in the western world? It is a lie that feminism has “not yet achieved” what it seeks to do. When girls do poorly in math and science, the world focuses its attention on them. When boys do poorly, another batch of “Boys are Stupid – Throw Rocks at them” T-shirts is printed.

And you know what, in all of this the west is burning. Our morals are in shambles as sl*t culture reigns supreme. Watch as families are disintegrating. Watch the growing divide due to feminist-inflicted gender apartheid between men and women. Watch as the middle class erods into nothingness. Definition of a third world country: no middle class.

So tell me again – where is the presumed irony in men finally getting tired of the stranglehod that feminism has on the west and in them subsequently being considered 4th class citizens – after women, their children, and their pets?

Message Edited by Antiriad on 08-25-2006 02:16 AM

08-25-2006 02:02 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
waaargh
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waaargh
The fact that women have a career is not bad, prima facie. However, *most* of the career women I’ve heard of have egos that require their own zip codes. Their standards are insanely high. And then they complain about not being able to find guys. The lawyers are especially bad because they use their tongues as weapons to put us down and treat us like troglodytes, sheesh. All the money and power have gone into their heads. Anyway, enough of my ranting. I just wanted to get this off my chest.

08-25-2006 02:19 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
porkchops38
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Them there is some true words Anti…

The bigger problem is that this welfare nanny state that the feminists have turned the USA into is racking up debt faster than the Titantic took on water. We got about $117 trillion in total debt right now (federal, state, munincipal, corporate, personal debt) in the USA — that’s $117 trillion to build one huge facade. So basically, no matter how socially destructive feminism and “women power” is, the USA can just keep digging the debt hole deeper, to “keep the dream alive” of “women’s power”. Eventually though, the money train supporting “women power” is going to go off the cliff, and when the $117 trillion and growing debt implodes the US economy, I sure hope these “women power” girls know how hunt bears and elk because there’s coming a day when “women power” ain’t gonna mean a hill of beans when the stores are selling loaves of bread for $3,000 which is about $2,999 more than you can afford. It’s not just the $117 trillion debt from the massive nanny welfare “women power” state either, it’s the fact that the massive nanny welfare “women power” state has destroyed real economy in the USA, to the tune of $1.5 million per minute is flowing out of the USA right now, which is the balance of trade deficit the USA is currently running. There’s hardly nothing manufactured in the USA anymore thanks to politicians who did nothing but set-up a massive nanny welfare “women power” state, lest they incur the wrath of women voters and their brow-beaten husbands. This year, the balance of trade the USA has with the rest of the world will reach an all time record high deficit of almost $1 trillion. I’m sure many women thought they would be living in a push-button world, but if the massive welfare nanny “women power” state keeps racking up massive debts and all-time record trade deficits, rather than seeing a push-button world that women dreamed of, we could very well be seeing a world where buttons don’t work very well anymore. I sure hope you strong smart intelligent “women power” girls know how to hunt wild pigs (bring home the bacon) and fry ’em up too, otherwise you might just find yourselves participating in a “diet plan” that works a whole lot better than Aitkens or Weight Watchers! Good luck cupcakes, you’re gonna need it!

08-25-2006 02:56 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Marta2003
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Marta2003

Are you for real? The deficit is caused by feminism? Not big government? Of which a small fraction of which goes to entitlement programs.

Go look it up, retard.

Whatever. What can one possibly do when talking to people who are determined to blame someone, anyone, else?

You’re insane, you know that? Unbalanced at the very least.

08-25-2006 05:32 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
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I think that feminism has certainly given many women distorted expectations.

A guy knows that he has to work all his life, and that his job will suck much of the time. It is called work, after all, not “joy.” He also knows that his wife will get older and lose looks, body, and often femininity. The average guy is pretty much resigned to this.

The “new american feminist woman” (or should we just say “career woman” to keep things simple?) expects a fulfilling and empowering job, a boy toy husband who pays her way, and perfect children that she does not have to raise. If life fails her, the husband gets blamed, divorce ensues as she goes out pursuing other options, and when her life goes entirely to hell, she becomes a very bitter person.

This is extreme, I know, but illustrative.

Women initiate two thirds of all divorces.

08-25-2006 05:51 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
B24601
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B24601

And what do men want? Would you ever think of saying “ah, those men, they want it all! A career, a pretty wife, children…they ask for too much!” Women want the same things out of life as men. And they are entitled to that.

So what is everyone upset about? The fact that many women have higher standards now and they’re not as likely to put up with abusive and unsatisfying relationships? They’re not as willing to put up with your nonsense now? Aww.
Boo hoo. Perhaps instead of villifying women, men should stop whining and rise to the occasion.

08-25-2006 06:51 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Pelican
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Pelican

registered wrote:
I think that feminism has certainly given many women distorted expectations.

A guy knows that he has to work all his life, and that his job will suck much of the time. It is called work, after all, not “joy.” He also knows that his wife will get older and lose looks, body, and often femininity. The average guy is pretty much resigned to this.

The “new american feminist woman” (or should we just say “career woman” to keep things simple?) expects a fulfilling and empowering job, a boy toy husband who pays her way, and perfect children that she does not have to raise. If life fails her, the husband gets blamed, divorce ensues as she goes out pursuing other options, and when her life goes entirely to hell, she becomes a very bitter person.

This is extreme, I know, but illustrative.

Women initiate two thirds of all divorces.

As this new breed of career woman, I expect for my contribution to the family to be judged as equal to my husband’s. If I have my dream job and he does not, then I would expect him to help me achieve my goal. If he loves his work and I’m indifferent, I would expect to do more to ensure he can do his job. This might mean staying home with the kids, just as he might stay home with kids if I was the high earner and happy in my work. Marriages are full of compromise, or at least they should be.

Part of women’s desire to work is to guarantee that they are NOT reliant on their husbands financially, part is to stay mentally engaged and enjoy the challenge of actually participating in a non-home part of civilization. (It’s somewhat counterintuitive that women both want to work AND expect to get supported by their husbands, surely?) Women who want children will shape their lives in anticipation of that, but will also expect that concessions will be made by both parents.

And you know what? Divorce really, really sucks. No woman plans for it, because it’s awful and depressing and makes you cry until your face is unrecognizable and you lose half your friends and sometimes half your kids and everyone in your life treats you like you’re broken. We don’t see it as a great opportunity to get a free house and alimony and all the trappings that are typically brought up as the spoils of war for women. It is not something that’s gone into lightly, and there are usually very good reasons on both sides for it to end.

Lastly — very considerate of men to put up with us as we get older and stop looking like teenagers. We also have to put up with that, of course, but would you rather be facing your retirement years with an equal, or someone who you selected for child-raising and housekeeping abilities and who you apparently no longer find attractive in your empty nest? There’s a lot to be said for a sharp mind and a woman who’s been engaged with the world.

08-25-2006 07:31 AM

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Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Cassius
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B24601 you got it all wrong. When a man gets his career on the road he is prefectly content with finding a good and good looking wife and he accepts the fact that his good looking wife is not a Ceo or rich or will ever get him rich and settels for the qualities she has. Women want it ALL looks personality money. If you make 100k a year and meet a man who meets all your criteria but the money because he does not have the job you have how about supporting him financially. I can understand women do not want to take this risk the risk that the Ex walks away with YOUR money. Iam not willing to take this risk eithier.

08-25-2006 07:34 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
porkchops38
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porkchops38
Cupcake Marta wrote: “Are you for real? The deficit is caused by feminism? Not big government? Of which a small fraction of which goes to entitlement programs.

Go look it up, retard.

Whatever. What can one possibly do when talking to people who are determined to blame someone, anyone, else?

You’re insane, you know that? Unbalanced at the very least.”

What we have here is a typical response from the female gender when the male gender presents factual information. Let us break this down, shall we?
1)”Are you for real?”
The male gender relates to facts, the female gender relates to personalities. My personality, whether I’m a real person, or a space alien, has no bearing on the facts I presented, but the female gender in general has a very difficult time dealing with facts, thus they will ask questions that have no bearing whatsoever on the facts, such as asking “Are you for real?”

2)”The deficit is caused by feminism? Not big government?”
Prior to the 19th amendment, it was a man’s world in the USA insofaras men ran the government, men worked jobs, and men paid taxes to support the government. The feminist “women power” movement started with the 19th amendment, and since then the government began to erect piece by piece the massive nanny welfare entitlement state. Now, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that if, for the most part, only men work and only men pay taxes, then it will be difficult to convince a majority of hard-working men to part with their hard-earned income to support a massive nanny welfare entitlement state. The fact is that it has been the vast majority of women (and their feminized brow-beaten husbands), who have supported the massive welfare nanny state time and time again, and without the massive support at the ballot box from women for the massive welfare nanny state, it would have never been erected, thus feminism and big government entitlement state go hand in hand. This “gender gap” as it is called in politics, still exists today — women tend to favor big government, and men tend to dislike big government. So, if you can’t deal with the facts, it’s not my problem, it’s yours.

3)”Of which a small fraction of which goes to entitlement programs.”
The Federal Reserve Bank of St.Louis recently released a summary paper on the entitlement state the USA has become, and in a nutshell the Federal government is facing $65 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlement programs over the next few decades. I’m not sure which part of $65 trillion in entitlement spending deficits you consider to be a “small fraction”, but the suggestion is ludicrous. I sure hope you do not vote, because you surely are lacking any factual information to make an informed vote for the security of the republic — an intellectually bankrupt voter such as yourself is surely a detriment to the republic. Keep in mind, the $65 trillion projected deficit is JUST FOR ENTITLEMENT SPENDING — it is the difference between projected tax revenues and projected outlays for mandated entitlement spending.

4)”Go look it up, retard.”
I think we’ve already ascertained who here among us needs to look up some facts. As for “retard” comment, calling names like that is always the surest sign of intellectual bankruptcy. Like I say, for the betterment of the republic, please don’t vote, and please urge other women as intellectually bankrupt as yourself not to vote either.

5)”Whatever. What can one possibly do when talking to people who are determined to blame someone, anyone, else?”
We all know what you really mean is that you can’t handle the truth. Stating facts and showing the cause of those facts is sensible. Every problem in this world has a cause, and sometimes stating the cause ends up blaming something or someone, that’s just the way it is cupcake. If you can’t place blame where blame is due, then you would make a horrible juror, so if you are called for jury duty please inform the court that you are not suitable to exact justice as a juror because you are mentally incapable of blaming anyone for anything.

6)”You’re insane, you know that? Unbalanced at the very least.”
Please see answer to #4 above regarding name-calling. Also, it has been said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting different results. Thus, given the set of facts I have set forth, I would submit that the feminist “women’s power” ideology is pure insanity. It has bankrupted the nation, financially, socially, and politically, thus the only way a woman today could still adhere to the ideologies that created this bankruptcy would be if those women are clinically insane.

Lastly, there are still men getting married today. In fact, a woman I used to work with got married recently. I was surprised that she got married because she had told me that the guy is gay when she was dating him. When I asked her why she is marrying a gay guy, she simply said because she doesn’t really like sex but she wants to have kids and he wants the world to think he’s not gay by having the appearance of being a family man. So I guess there’s someone for everyone.

08-25-2006 11:58 AM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Cassius
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Cassius
Porkychop what have you done ? That stackato of facts and numbers are likely to turn Marta into a quivering red faced fury. We can only hope there is no gun within her reach.

08-25-2006 12:19 PM

Re: The Problem is Women. They want it all.
Marta2003
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Marta2003

porkchops38 wrote:
The male gender relates to facts, the female gender relates to personalities.
I asked if you were an actual person, in fact. Nothing whatsoever about your personality.

The feminist “women power” movement started with the 19th amendment, and since then the government began to erect piece by piece the massive nanny welfare entitlement state.
Actually, big goverment started with Marbury v. Madison, and all the commerce clause cases after it. It had absolutely nothing to do with the feminist movement. Try again.

The fact is that it has been the vast majority of women (and their feminized brow-beaten husbands), who have supported the massive welfare nanny state time and time again, and without the massive support at the ballot box from women for the massive welfare nanny state, it would have never been erected, thus feminism and big government entitlement state go hand in hand.
Yeah, not a stretch there at all. None whatsoever.

You do realize that it’s evident you’re pulling this stuff out of your butt (i.e., making it up as you go along)?

The Federal Reserve Bank of St.Louis recently released a summary paper on the entitlement state the USA has become, and in a nutshell the Federal government is facing $65 trillion in unfunded liabilities for entitlement programs over the next few decades. I’m not sure which part of $65 trillion in entitlement spending deficits you consider to be a “small fraction”, but the suggestion is ludicrous.
Answer these questions: what is the government’s annual budget? What fraction of that is spent on welfare and social security?

Nice try at evasion though.

08-26-2006 06:48 PM

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