Both Authors Misinterpret Facts


Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Both Authors Misinterpret Facts

Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
sirus_omega
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sirus_omega

I am disappointed by the articles by both Michael Noer and Elizabeth Corcoran.  Briefly, my disappointment may be summarized as follows:

(1)  Noer cites some interesting scientific statistics.  His interpretation as to the cause of these statistics, though, is purely his opinion.  Undoubtedly, the cause is far more complex and involves the actions of both partners.
(2)  Corcoran counters with the story of her own marriage.  While this may argue against Noer’s OPINION (that men shouldn’t marry a “career girl”), it does not address the statistics in any way (the stats never say a marriage where both partners have careers won’t work; on the contrary, the stats say there is some percentage that DO work, and those people are very happy).

Conclusion:  neither author make a convincing argument, and neither properly addresses these interesting statistics.  In other words, both articles are poorly written.

A couple of points that (I believe, but that’s just my opinion) would have been interesting to discuss or answer:
–In the marriages that fail when both have careers, who is responsible or who ends the relationship?
–When both partners have careers and the marriage IS successful, are those people happier than those in a relationship with only one working partner?
–What sort of people choose to enter into a relationship where both partners have careers?  Or where only one person has a career?
And, of course, many more questions, like these, that actually try to discover WHY the statistics are what they are!  In my opinion, a good article would have at least attempted to confront the multitude of possible causes behind the statistical facts.

08-26-2006 04:34 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
sunji
Contributor
sunji

Statistics can be twisted around to suit any agenda. For example, Noer wants us to believe married women shouldn’t have careers because divorce is more likely when they do….that’s true, but he doesn’t mention that many non-career women remain married not because they want to or should, but because they lack the financial means to leave a bad marriage.

You can pick and choose studies to support any opinion. That’s why there are always studies that refute the findings of previous studies.

08-26-2006 04:45 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
sirus_omega
Newbie
sirus_omega

sunji — you are, of course, correct about there being hidden issues behind the statistics.  That is exactly what I was trying to get across:  Noer’s article offered a very glib interpretation of the stats, when there are clearly a multitude of other issues at hand (such as the one you point out).

So, again, I believe both articles were poorly written, since neither one really attempt to discern the cause of these statistics… and ultimately, that is what is really interesting.

08-26-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
C2shiningC
Contributor
C2shiningC

Well stated sirius_omega.

And as a reminder to all the readers, please re-read Michael Noer’s final paragraph.

“A word of caution, though: As with any social scientific study, it’s important not to confuse correlation with causation………….”

08-26-2006 04:57 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
sunji
Contributor
sunji

Yeah, nice disclaimer.

Of course, it will be ignored by the legions of women-haters here who say the article is “backed by studies”

08-26-2006 05:03 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
pamphyila
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pamphyila

THe women you people meet!  Growing up I assumed that women could/would work if it was necessary/ they wanted to.  Both my grandmothers worked out of necessity.  My mother worked as a young woman and part time as an older one. Since my background was of energetic and forthright women on both sides – I naively assumed that that was the world of relationships – until I left home and discovered the covert agendas of manipulative traditional womanhood which had been passed down as  “wisdom.” I am the womanly woman who has an Ivy League degree and never made much money as an artistic type – who married late in life & is very happy.  But I am forthright, and it has taken me a good deal of effort to remain so!  Ha! OF COURSE women have to spend money on their appearances!  It’s part of the GAME, guys!! Men can get away with murder on that front – while women have to invest in moisturizer, makeup – good hair cuts – a varied wardrobe – the list goes on and on…That’s even to keep barely abreast with the competition of nubile youngsters whom the media has taught the males to slobber over.

Yes, one can do it more or less on a budget – I was taught that by my forthright, frugal mother.  But she LOVED her husband, and wasn’t into mere exploitation of his financial assets.  Remember the vow “for richer or poorer??

NONE of us in my family has indulged in over-priced customary diamonds – which none of us like, anyway – OR weddings which put us in hock!  With energy and some art and taste, one can have a lovely event that doesn’t put oodles of $ into the wedding industry’s pocket.  It’s all a sham, boys & girls – a way to support another consumer industry & conspicuous consumption.  Don’t you get it?  It’s like doweries, just disguised more subtly.  NONE of this is necessary – just customary – and you are looking for women who don’t buy into that crapola.

The people you aer describing are merely acting as SLAVES in that whole scheme…and they are totally unaware of it, either.  So wake up, all of you.

A few of us can work on what we love – usually for less $ – but we can survive quite happily – others are in the game for the monetary points – & that’s ok, too, if you enjoy it & are not exploitative – my father managed it.

But you must not get bitter along the way – but keep an open and loving heart – or your quest to find a mate/partner will be doomed.  A little too philosophical for you guys – but it’s spiritual emptiness that is at the base of this whole discussion.  My forthright foremothers knew what was important & thank God they passed that on to me.  And they married for LOVE – deep and passionate love that didn’t fail.  They did not enter into a medieval marital contract!  That’s the key to the mystery.  And love, great love and willingness to sacrifice when necessary for the greater good.

Don’t be spoiled and selfish – for as you sow, so shall you reap….

08-26-2006 07:23 PM

Re: Both Authors Misinterpret Facts
sirus_omega
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sirus_omega
pamphyila — Perhaps I missed something, but, ah, did you even read my post? I have no idea what you are referring to in your reply.

08-27-2006 09:45 AM

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