Career women – please address this


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Career women – please address this
miscwit
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miscwit

The dating websites provide a very revealing look into the needs, desires, and wants of women.

If women are truly accepting of a man who stays at home to tend to the domestic arts and sciences, why do we not see “househusband wanted” (or words to that effect) in at least 50% of the postings of single women?

Seriously, please address this.

Thanks.

08-25-2006 09:07 PM

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velo_blues
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velo_blues
sound of crickets chirping…

08-25-2006 09:09 PM

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Leslie
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Leslie
Maybe because we’re more interested in finding someone we can love for who he *is,* as opposed to what he can do for us.

08-25-2006 09:30 PM

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Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen

Leslie wrote:
Maybe because we’re more interested in finding someone we can love for who he *is,* as opposed to what he can do for us.

Leslie, the easiest way to end a relationship with an American Women is to tell her you’re poor.

A modern woman who loves a man for who he is?

Modern women don’t care about men for who they are.
Modern women don’t care about the feelings of men.
Modern women are inculcated from day one with hatred for males.

The only thing they care about is whether or not they have a better lifestyle than the lifestyle of other women. In other words, they’re only interested in having more than what other women have. They are always looking for the BBD (big better deal) and when it comes along, they’ll drop the man ASAP. They don’t love a man “for who he is.”

They love a man for the lifestyle he can provide. If something better comes along they could care less about ending the relationship as long as they can upgrade.

Materialism drives modern women – nothing else.

“With women or the female mindset imparted through feminization on the vast majority of society, it will be very easy to control the Empire…I mean…the republic.” – mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com

08-25-2006 09:49 PM

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Hedgie
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Hedgie

Leslie wrote:

“…we’re more interested in finding someone we can love for who he *is,* as opposed to what he can do for us.”

Yeah, right. That’s bullsh*t.

08-25-2006 09:57 PM

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porkchops38
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porkchops38

Leslie wrote:
Maybe because we’re more interested in finding someone we can love for who he *is,* as opposed to what he can do for us.

I admit, I used to fall for that line from women at one time, but as my income went up so did the number of women in my “dating circle”, and I smelled a rat. It’s kinda like when I lived in run-down one-bedroom apartment and the Jehovah’s Witnesses never stopped by even once during the 3 years I lived in that rat-hole, and as soon as I move into a nice house in the suburbs all of a sudden the JW’s are on my doorstep like flies on a ribroast. John Dillinger was asked why he robbed banks and he replied, “‘Cause that’s where the money is!” If only women could be as honest as a bank robber….

08-25-2006 10:06 PM

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miscwit
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miscwit

Women complain heartily about being treated as sex objects.

Of course, few discuss men being treated as success objects.

If men complain about being success objects, we’re damned as being whiny and not “real” men.

I guess it’s the job of men to shut up and earn more money.

08-25-2006 10:16 PM

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Pelican
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Pelican

If women are truly accepting of a man who stays at home to tend to the domestic arts and sciences, why do we not see “househusband wanted” (or words to that effect) in at least 50% of the postings of single women?

Seriously, please address this.

Thanks.

Women aren’t looking to adopt the mate-seeking methods of men who might post looking for “housewives”. Why would we? We’re looking for capability and intelligence, not a serf. I’ll find out soon enough whether or not a man wants to stay home with kids, but it’s not the priority when meeting him for the first time. When I’m getting to know him, I’d prefer to know the more important issues: what are his ambitions, what is his history, how does he see his life shaping up in the future? Very simply, I wouldn’t advertise FOR a househusband because that’s not the primary thing I’m looking for — it’s a compromise we can look at later in a relationship.

What shocks me is that more men don’t look for women who have talents beyond that of housewifery. What if you lose your job, and you and the wife both have to go out to work, wouldn’t it be nice to have a wife who is just as capable of pulling down money and has kept her head in the game?

08-25-2006 10:20 PM

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PolishKnight
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PolishKnight

Women aren’t looking to adopt the mate-seeking methods of men who might post looking for “housewives”. Why would we? We’re looking for capability and intelligence, not a serf. I’ll find out soon enough whether or not a man wants to stay home with kids, but it’s not the priority when meeting him for the first time. When I’m getting to know him, I’d prefer to know the more important issues: what are his ambitions, what is his history, how does he see his life shaping up in the future? Very simply, I wouldn’t advertise FOR a househusband because that’s not the primary thing I’m looking for — it’s a compromise we can look at later in a relationship.

What shocks me is that more men don’t look for women who have talents beyond that of housewifery. What if you lose your job, and you and the wife both have to go out to work, wouldn’t it be nice to have a wife who is just as capable of pulling down money and has kept her head in the game?

Read between the lines: People who aren’t “ambitious” and talk about how they make money aren’t intelligent or have plans.  That’s nice.  That brings up another point:

It’s said that men don’t respect women especially housewives while it’s men who respect this role enough to provide for such a spouse with cold, hard cash.  Since your priority in seeking a mate is finding out their income earning potential, a man who sought someone like you out based upon a realistic likelihood of them being unemployed wouldn’t last very long.  After all, a truly successful man probably could weather unemployment for a period.  In other words, you’re willing to be there for a man who doesn’t need you to be there.

Europeans often remark that Americans define themselves by what they do at work while they judge themselves by their interests.  In other words, they work to live rather than live to work.

08-25-2006 11:09 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor

miscwit wrote:
The dating websites provide a very revealing look into the needs, desires, and wants of women.

Factoid: the second most popular search term used by women at match.com is “motorcycle”.

(I think I saw this in Harper’s Index)

Of course these wouldn’t be high-minded career women with advanced degrees…

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08-25-2006 11:11 PM

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Anti_Feminist
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Anti_Feminist

Isnt it amazing how the lies of women just flow like water? So you start your answer buy saying wanting to be a house husband is not that important to you but the first question out of your mouth is what are his ambitions? I can only conclude from your answer that you don’t take house husband as an ambition so therefore the question of ambition can only be taken has how are you going to earn me more money? Thus proving our point!!!

08-25-2006 11:18 PM

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bcm
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bcm

Back2TheKitchen wrote:
The only thing they care about is whether or not they have a better lifestyle than the lifestyle of other women. In other words, they’re only interested in having more than what other women have. They are always looking for the BBD (big better deal) and when it comes along, they’ll drop the man ASAP. They don’t love a man “for who he is.”

Who crapped in your Wheaties? Seriously!

I’m a 25-year-old “career” woman who happens to be a newlywed (we dated for four years before we got married) and I certainly did not marry my husband for his money, position or “providing” for me other than the items he promised in his vows: To love me and stay my best friend for the rest of our days.

When I first met my husband, he was jobless. During our early dating, he had to move back in with his parents while he went to grad school. He currently rots away in a cube at a job he hates and spends his free time applying for new jobs wherever possible. Marrying him meant taking on a lot of debt that he built up during his bachelor days.

Would I give him up if some clean-credit guy making six-figures who drove a Porche came along? No way in hell.

I married my husband because he’s a great guy. He introduced me to sports–particularly baseball. He makes me laugh. He’ll carry my sorry-ass to bed if I’ve fallen asleep on the couch during the game. He’ll tell me honestly if my new hair cut is bad (and will drive me back to the hair dresser to get it fixed!).

Do I love him for who he is? You bet. Would I change him? No way.

– bcm

08-25-2006 11:44 PM

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Pelican
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Pelican

Anti_Feminist wrote:

Isnt it amazing how the lies of women just flow like water? So you start your answer buy saying wanting to be a house husband is not that important to you but the first question out of your mouth is what are his ambitions? I can only conclude from your answer that you don’t take house husband as an ambition so therefore the question of ambition can only be taken has how are you going to earn me more money? Thus proving our point!!!

No, I said that I would not ADVERTISE for a “househusband” in a personals ad. If I find him interesting on a personal level and then his ambition turns out to be staying at home with children, great. But to advertise FOR a house husband would be like saying I’m only interested in lawyers, or only mechanics need apply.

Ambition can take many forms that have nothing to do with career. You might want to write a novel, or travel through South America, or have five kids, or live in a foreign country, or become an activist, or learn Russian. These are the things that make people interesting, and these are the things that will make married life interesting.

08-26-2006 12:35 AM

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Pelican
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Pelican

Read between the lines: People who aren’t “ambitious” and talk about how they make money aren’t intelligent or have plans.  That’s nice.  That brings up another point:

It’s said that men don’t respect women especially housewives while it’s men who respect this role enough to provide for such a spouse with cold, hard cash.  Since your priority in seeking a mate is finding out their income earning potential, a man who sought someone like you out based upon a realistic likelihood of them being unemployed wouldn’t last very long.  After all, a truly successful man probably could weather unemployment for a period.  In other words, you’re willing to be there for a man who doesn’t need you to be there.

Europeans often remark that Americans define themselves by what they do at work while they judge themselves by their interests.  In other words, they work to live rather than live to work.

Your line-reading needs some work, Polish — ambition can mean things far beyond how you bring money into a home. Money isn’t everything in a relationship, which might be where some people are going wrong.

And you just sounded like you want to buy a housewife with that “cold, hard cash” bit — that’s exactly what spooks some about the housewife role. It’s not an employee-employer relationship with her husband (ie, “I pay you to take care of kids and clean and nag me”), it’s a partnership.

In other news, I’ve been living in Europe for years and agree with the “work to live” balance. That’s the way I see things moving, and that’s pretty much how I organize my life.

Message Edited by Pelican on 08-26-2006 01:05 AM

08-26-2006 12:56 AM

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