Feminist societies will self-destruct


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Feminist societies will self-destruct
Hedgie
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Hedgie

I agree with a previous poster who claimed that feminist, matriarchical societies are not sustainable.

Why? It’s so simple even a retarded monkey (or an American career woman with an MBA) could understand it.

The societies that created and celebrated feminist ideologies are not reproducing. They’re dying out. Birth rates throughout the West are plummeting, especially in those formerly traditional socities such as Spain and Italy where feminism’s assault has been the strongest. Birth rates remain below replacement level. Understand? We…are…not…reproducing. Men and women in the West simply don’t like one another, at least not enough to marry and start families.

However, the developing world is reproducing. And in time, the more traditional cultures of Islam, Asia, and Latin America will replace the West. In fact, it’s already happening.

My advice to spoiled career women in the West today is: be thankful for the men in our society, who still remain incredibly tolerant of you and your kind and put up with your endless b*tching and moaning and sh*t.

Be thankful for what you have now, because you’re definitely not going to like what is coming.

08-27-2006 12:54 PM

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Termi0n
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Termi0n

“Men and women in the West simply don’t like one another, at least not enough to marry and start families.”

Of course this is men’s fault for not bowing down and accepting feminist ideology and being big fat misogynist jerks!

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

08-27-2006 01:05 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
And it’s probably no coincidence that the societies to which we’re losing biggest financially (China, India, the oil-rich mid-east countries…) are all still more or less traditional patriarchies.

When we were still a patriarchy 100+ years ago we were a great nation. (I’m not suggesting all was perfect back then…) The legacy of that era and our physical isolation probably helped bring us two or three more good decades after WWII, but for the last 30-40 years we’ve been doing all we can to hold our own. Just a thought…

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08-27-2006 01:10 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
Lets use basic math to prove your point.

China 500,000 student Engineers a year
USA 50,000 Engineers.

Who will create the most future products? In China they don’t cave in to Feminism and say you have to spend more to try to produce women engineers. They say the best and smartest will become the engineers they will not lower their standards to make a woman feel smart like the dumbing down of American schools. We better hope our immigration laws can lure these Chinese and Indians to America so we get their talent to keep our standard of living high.

Truthfully we need segregated schools so boys can learn the way we are designed. Sitting in a chair like a little obedient girl doesn’t work for us, we need challenges and the abiltiy to use our hands. Instead teachers see boys as too hard to handle so they say they have disorders, lets drug the little monsters instead of understanding the biological laws of male and female differences.

08-27-2006 01:20 PM

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tomshh
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tomshh

This is why I am working hard to make my money, while the USA is king, and once the USA falls (which is most likely will, and very soon), I will have the opprotunity to leave, if need be.

Feminism has done far more to hurt the USA than Al Qaeda could ever dream.  We men need to be wise, and prepare for our futures.  The women here have shunned us, so we will leave them behind, mooing like a bunch of horny cows, while society falls in ruin.

08-27-2006 01:28 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

However, the developing world is reproducing. And in time, the more traditional cultures of Islam (We need more future terrorists), Asia (we need more females babies murdered at birth), and Latin America(over half of Brazil’s chilfdren are homeless) will replace the West. In fact, it’s already happening.

………..And this is a good thing to you?

08-27-2006 03:38 PM

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labindenver
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labindenver

Okay guys. I am hoping for a reasonable discussion here, and hopefully I will not get assaulted with accusations. There has been enough hate on this board from both genders, and it is appalling. How are we as a society going to solve problems effectively if we behave this way?

I do not hate men, in fact I am quite fond of them. But when some on here seem to right off the bat hate me for seemingly single-handedly screwing up our nation by coming into the workforce in the first place, I have a hard time not getting a bit defensive. My working has never been a “choice”.

Yes, I chose to pursue an education which I paid for myself while working so as not to be a drain on society. What was the alternative? Live with my mother while I waited for the right man to come along? Most career women today started as such because they did not have a choice. We all have to eat and have a roof over our heads.

With that being said, I would like some feedback on what you feel the solutions are. Saying that women need to get back into the home is a bit too simplistic, for there are far too many other societal changes that need to also take place to make this work in America again.

Some have cited that we are not even replacing ourselves via reproduction. I happen to agree with this fear. On the other hand, reproducing at the rates of some of the countries cited is out of control and leads to mass overpopulation, which means everyone in that society, men, women and children, are living in extreme poverty and poor health conditions. Obviously, we can agree that is not desirable.

When I look at my heritage, my grandparents and before lived in middle America and worked their butts off as poor farmers. The men and women had an equal distribution of work, and neither was raving about how “fulfilling” it was. It was **bleep** hard work, and everyone needed everyone else simply to survive. Go back a long ways before that, and people still lived in communal situations, where men needed each other to make tools and homes, hunt and protect, and women needed each other to grow and prepare food, raise children, make clothing and heal ailments.

The industrial revolution changed our world as we know it. Families became isolated, and fundamental needs were no longer met in the same way. Women used to get much of their emotional support not from men but from other women. Also, in the cases where for whatever reason a man no longer served as a provider and father, a woman had others to help raise her children. I think women felt safer in this environment because they were not reliant on one person. Obviously, if that person turned out to be a jerk, there was the potential for abuse. If you guys saw a man gravely mistreating your mother or sister, you would do something about it, right?

Because we now live in the relative isolation of single family units, women have lost this sense of communal protection, and I think women pursuing higher education and careers was a way to try to combat this. I’m not saying it was the perfect solution. Many times there is not a perfect solution, but you still have to do something. And now we are in a world where most women feel they have to work. Some very much want to, and some would prefer not to, but regardless circumstances force them to for their own survival.

I would very much like to hear some well thought out discussion of how we can solve some of these problems. I do agree with some of the posters that one step is Americans getting over the need for material possessions. That takes courage and discipline, but it can be done. Live with less.  Other suggestions?

08-27-2006 03:41 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius
Of course Pandora all Muslims are terrorists and u wont find brazilians with money, and do not dare speak english in germany we will shoot you on sight.

08-27-2006 05:10 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius
During the Industrial revolution 2 incomes were needed to scrape by 2 incomes that generated the äquivalent of maybe 600 of todays dollars if ot less. The children had noone to look after because the women were not at home the way they used to be but in the fabric working 14 hrs shifts. Thw workers fough and kept fighting to make sure they would get enough to feed their families and make it possibel to their wives to raise and look after their children. Now comes the trickery of feminism. The people who fund feminism want to undo all of which has been achieved. They want a male worker and a female one at the price they had to give one man to support his family. Their biggest gain though is your offspring which now does not get properly educated and will be easily influencable and guideable. You see girls feminism is trickery, making you want something you did not want because its bad for you.

08-27-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
average_reader
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average_reader
BS

With 6,000,000,000+ people, the last thing the world need is more breeding.

When we get down to a million, then we can start breeding like crazy, but until then, it is in our best interest to SLOW the growth.

There is only so much to go around.

Also, while societies are important, we currently risk losing EVERYTHING.

Global warming…seven minutes till midnight.
Those are real risks.

08-27-2006 05:38 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

Facts are facts, Big C. …Those countries mentioned treat their women very poorly…like it or not!  Maybe you should go live there.  You might do them some good since you are such a big man.  You probably have children out there you don’t know about.

08-27-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
toadman
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toadman

Even Westernized empowered women won’t touch those countries, lest they get their asses handed to them.

08-27-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
Hedgie
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Hedgie

Let me put it another way.

To quote a movie: “Nature always finds a way.”

If men and women in the West are not reproducing, our society will die. I believe it is already happening. Our place will be taken by imported populations from the Islamic world, Asia, and Latin America, who adhere to more traditional, more natural forms of marriage and family formation. Thus, a new society rises out of the ashes of the old.

Nature abhors a vacuum. (Come to think  of it, so do American career women!)

08-27-2006 06:20 PM

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tomshh
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tomshh

It is funny to sit back and watch.

For all the good men create and produce, women counter act it with destruction.

Men build up great western societies, give women equal rights, and they destroy these same societies and an amazing pace.

Humorous.  Good work ladies, you are so brave and proud, yet terrified to not have a man there to protect you.  This is why you waste your time on this forum.  It scares you to know that men are walking away from your worthless a**es.

08-27-2006 06:32 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

Keep telling yourself that, freaktard………..Like we need protecting….Get a life.

08-27-2006 06:38 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
labindenver
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labindenver

Tomshh, I see that you have over 70 postings.  You still want to comment on “wasting time” on this forum?  If you didn’t have women on here to argue with, you would just have the bobble-heads who agree with you (no offense to the many men on here who think this approach is too radical and have stated as such).  And if they already agree with you, then exactly who are you trying to convince of your revelations about solving society’s problems?

You are never going to get the vast majority of women to take you seriously when you approach it from this perspective.  I’m sure your argument to that is that you don’t need women to do so.  And my argument is that you absolutely do.  Women are after all necessary for breeding.  Which seems to me the only thing you think they are useful for.  Which is exactly why they don’t want to breed with you in the first place.  Thank goodness we live in a society where they don’t have to.  And one where you will be severely punished if you try to force them.

Despite the less than perfectness of American society, it is still one where many people, men and women, prefer to live.  Why do you think so many people are trying to move here in the first place?  Simply citing the names of countries that have mass population and suggesting they will take over our culture is not convincing enough for me.  The vast majority of those living within those populations are uneducated and living in poverty.  Historically, civilizations that have flourished long-term are ones that are smart enough to utilize their resources well, produce offspring that are adequately educated, and limit the death toll that results from disease and malnourishment.

It seems to me that if you really think the answer is for us American women to stay home and have more babies, then you would be offering some words that encourage us to want to do so, such as the specific benefits to us and our children.  And to me, a “benefit” is definitely a loving and supportive provider, father and husband.  I have not heard you and some others on here state that you actually DESIRE to be the sole provider of your household, and would actually ENJOY being a devoted family man.  So what’s the deal with that?

08-27-2006 07:37 PM

Re: Feminist societies will self-destruct
PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

Lab—-Excellent write up!

08-27-2006 08:32 PM

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crella
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crella
Yes, much better than your reply….

08-27-2006 10:55 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

lighten up—-or say something to the men more productive.

08-28-2006 12:18 AM

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PatriarchVerlch
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PatriarchVerlch

In America we have to lower standards so women will pass off as doctors and lawyers. The top 5% of men get to pass, while the top 25% of women get in. Hardly high standards, but hey feminists seem to think we need quota’s.

Also for every 11 men with an IQ over 170 there is 1 woman.

Just as eighth graders qualifying for advanced math, there are 13 boys for every 1 girl. Why are we empowering the middle of the pack? So we don’t hurt their feelings? More BS.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 05:43 PM

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PatriarchVerlch
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PatriarchVerlch

I know, math and statistics bore feminists. But you should look into them, there is alot of truth in them.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 05:45 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

Also for every 11 men with an IQ over 170 there is 1 woman.

Please send a link with this info.  It would be very interesting to read.

08-30-2006 11:54 PM

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