Selfishness on BOTH sides.


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Selfishness on BOTH sides.
ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

After reading the pro and con, I now know why the divorce rate is so high – NEITHER gender gets it.

Bring on Dr. Phil.

My husband and I have been together 25 years – 20 of those married.  We dated for 5 years from the time we were 16 till our marriage at 21.  Through it all we have both had jobs that paid very little yeet we managed to keep a roof over our heads as well as that over our soon to be 16 year old daughter.

Now we are both lucky enough to have decent jobs with benefits packages that will, after 20 years of marriage, will finally help us save a little as well as put away for our daughters’ future, as well as pay off some outstanding debts.  THIS IS CALLED TEAMWORK…..just in case those of you forget what the word means.

It has nothing to do with who makes the more money, who contributes more to the household or who deals with everyday household expenses.  Check your egos at the door, people!

It has always been a rule at our house that whoever gets home first starts on dinner.  Seeing we are now both in the transportation industry, that could be either of us…he’s a garbage guy, I deliver packages. We are both out the door at 5:30 in the morning and God knows when we get home, and now we both make about the same wage.

I say to those who insist on blaming each side to the other to GET OVER IT – it’s not worth the arguement or the hassles.  We only live once and as for getting rid of the institution of marriage is just a cop out solution.

Remember – if you live with someone 6 months to a year in the eyes of the Courts you are considered a couple anyway, peice of paper or not – so now what is everyone endorsing – multiple partners?!

08-27-2006 02:49 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor

…so now what is everyone endorsing – multiple partners?!

I endorse men avoiding women entirely (“nonogamy” TM), unless they have nothing to lose (in which case, go for it). If that’s not possible, be very, very careful.

Otherwise, I also endorse reading “How it all fell apart” http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/fallapart.html. If we don’t know how we got into this mess we won’t know how to get out of it.

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

08-27-2006 03:10 PM

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Doc_Savage
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Doc_Savage

“Bring on Dr. Phil”

The problem with Dr. Phil is that he sides with the anti-male feminist viewpoint (albeit subtly). And he does that because his audience is mostly women. In other words it’s all about $$$$.

Take a gander:

http://tinyurl.com/rkz82

08-27-2006 03:12 PM

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porkchops38
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porkchops38
You’re free to live your life how you want to, so don’t construe what I say into bashing you or your life choices, but I would point out FYI only, your honor, that if every family in the world only had 1 child per family, the human race would be extinct in a few generations. Muslims have among the highest birth rates in the world. Muslims in Gaza have the highest, I think it’s something like almost a 10% birth rate there, and across the muslim world they have birth rates that are several hundred percent higher than western women who have a birth rates around 1%, so if these trends continue (and I see no reason they won’t) I would expect to see Islamic fascism dominate in the future. That’s why I myself, am heavily inclined to never father any children, becasue afterall, what kind of parent would bring a child into the world where the writing on the wall shows that your child(ren) or grandchild(ren) faces a certainty of being a dhimmi slave to an Islamic fascist caliphate? No thanks, I’ll let the muslims and the feminist “useful idiots” win that one. Before Jesus was crucified, a crowd of people were crying for Jesus’ considering his impending crucifiction, but Jesus turned to the crowd crying for him, and interestingly Jesus ONLY spoke to the women in the crowd. Jesus said to the women, “Women, don’t cry for me, cry for yourselves, because the day will come when you will wish that you never had breasts to suckle children with…and if they do this to me when the tree is green, what do you think they will do to you women when the tree is dry.”
I’m paraphrasing what Jesus said of course, go look it up yourselves if you want a word by word account. The point is that women always get screwed when the sh-t hits the fan, and the western feminized world has today screwed themselves out of existence with insignificant birth rates and massive debts and deficits incurred with the feminist nanny entitlement state for the few children that the west is producing. So, the sh-t is going to hit the fan, eventually, there is no doubt about that course. The thing is, when the sh-t does hit the fan, women and children of the west are going to be nothing but chattel to the future Islamic fascist state. The feminized men won’t even put up a fight, the Islamic fascists will just shoot the feminized men in the back as they are running away, and the men who actually stand-up and try to fight will be vastly outnumbered by the Islamic armies, so they’ll be dead too. So, as Jesus said, cry for yourselves western women, because all the men will be dead, and you and your children will be nothing but dhimmi slaves, cleaning toilets for your Muslim masters and being the 28th or 29th wife of some muslim man who is allergic to water. While all this is going on, I’ll have lived out my life as best as I see fit, and thankful that none of my progeny are future chattel of Islamic fascists.

08-27-2006 03:30 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

I’ve only recently started to work with a Muslim and he’s already received a tongue lashing from me because he made the bad mistake of treating me like a lower person under the 6 other guys I work with.

I told him that this was Canada, not his country, and he could start treating me on an even keel because I was not going to submit to his degradation.

Nothing to do with being a feminist at al – just equal respect among the masses.

08-27-2006 03:45 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
Porkchop we have seen this future being played out in Isreal-Hezbollah conflict. The Isrealis defended their turf but no one is sure who won. The Muslims continue to breed faster than Isreal since the women in Isreal are now into the Feminist camp and don’t produce the offspring. They win this time but in 30 years Isreal may be conquered as some of Europe as well. Scary is France having a population where Muslims become the majority. France has nuclear missiles.

08-27-2006 03:45 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

Obviously you don’t watch the man.

My husband and I watch him when we can – and he likes him.  He must be in the minority.

08-27-2006 03:47 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

How it got started was when governments started, through their constant appetite for more dollars, made it impossible for one income families to exist any longer.

Women had no choice but to enter the workplace because it is IMPOSSIBLE to exist on one income any longer.

Since when is it wrong to be able to put a permanant roof over your families’ head, keep up with the bills and put clothes on their backs?

Trust me, if I didn’t have to work I wouldn’t and I would stay home – but that is not going to happen when the cost of living makes it impossible to do so.

Avoid women altogether – that is your choice – but let me tell you this.  My teen daughter says the same thing of men.  She says “they aren’t worth it” and she hasn’t even come close to a relationship yet!

So tell me what type of example men in this country are providing our teen daughters with?  From what mine says….not much.

08-27-2006 03:55 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
“Bring on Dr. Phil”

Right. I was going to point to that small statement too. Dr. Phil is part of the problem, not the solution. His typical show is about having some woman bring her errant hubbie on so Dr. Phil can verbally beat up on him and “fix” him. He never asks her why she married the jerk in the first place. The guys are too cowed to stand up to this abuse, and I’ve noticed Dr. Phil makes a point of never having articulate men on (unless he’s having `em on as a cooperative witness and to plug some book). The atmosphere there is very tightly controlled.

Women love this sort of stuff, as you can tell from the 90% female audience for the show.

I will give him a tiny bit of credit for running a segment a month or two ago on the “Row vs Wade for Men” suit, though the message board response was not encouraging as to the general level of enlightment among his fanbase, which really wasn’t a surprise.

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

08-27-2006 04:05 PM

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TheBM
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TheBM

ayecalypso53 wrote:

How it got started was when governments started, through their constant appetite for more dollars, made it impossible for one income families to exist any longer.

Women had no choice but to enter the workplace because it is IMPOSSIBLE to exist on one income any longer.

Since when is it wrong to be able to put a permanant roof over your families’ head, keep up with the bills and put clothes on their backs?

Trust me, if I didn’t have to work I wouldn’t and I would stay home – but that is not going to happen when the cost of living makes it impossible to do so.

Avoid women altogether – that is your choice – but let me tell you this.  My teen daughter says the same thing of men.  She says “they aren’t worth it” and she hasn’t even come close to a relationship yet!

So tell me what type of example men in this country are providing our teen daughters with?  From what mine says….not much.

She says men aren’t worth it and that she doesn’t need it and hates all men and disrespects all of us not because of what any of us did. But because she is buying into the feminist pop culture that tells her that men are all of those things.

Thus, She will go on with life not respecting men, Hating men and constantly saying she doens’t want or need us. With this in mind why the hell should any of us care what she thinks of men? Good, I want her to leave men alone. One less guy who will get raped in divorce court.

08-27-2006 04:09 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
“How it got started was when governments started, through their constant appetite for more dollars, made it impossible for one income families to exist any longer.

Women had no choice but to enter the workplace because it is IMPOSSIBLE to exist on one income any longer.”

Government has gotten bigger since women became majority voters. The truth is women want protection and comfort, you would agree with this right? Look at the social programs started by government, many are for women and actually lead to offering them the ability to raise children single. On the other hand government tends to view men as possible threats, it is more likley men will defend themsleves and start rebellions. So using women as the vote to try to control men we are now more socialistic with massive future debts that can’t be repaid. You know that US government and citizen obligations amount to $70 trillion? The government will have to massively inflate, cut future obligations or raise taxes to solve this.We will all lose in the end especially the future generations, another reason I won’t have children in America because I already see their bleak financial future and lower living standards. My plan is to escape and keep saving hopefully I will be gone before it hits. Otherwise I will hold my Gold, Silver, and Oil stocks in case it fails while I’m still here.

08-27-2006 04:14 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

Now I can definitely tell you don’t watch him.  If you did, you would notice that he goes after BOTH genders, especially when it comes to the consequences for the kids involved (if any).

On his show, I have seen women and men treated with the same adomination.  One gets it first then the other, usually because of the stupidity shown on both sides.

Many a time my husband and I find ourselves shaking our heads and yelling “DUH!” at the television.

I don’t agree with everything the man says, but he does offer alot of food for thought.

08-27-2006 04:16 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

No need to worry about divorce court when she doesn’t plan on ever marrying.

Made up her own mind on that by just going to high school and seeing how teen boys are treating their teen girlfriends, who generally in turn are too stupid to stop being blindsided and continue to “love them.”

She says she won’t fall for that, and she made her mind up on her own, and for that I say “good for her.”

A dog and cat with a career of her own is fine with her, and that is fine with me and her father.  Independance is better than depending on someone else for support, I always say.

08-27-2006 04:23 PM

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TheBM
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TheBM

ayecalypso53 wrote:
No need to worry about divorce court when she doesn’t plan on ever marrying.

Made up her own mind on that by just going to high school and seeing how teen boys are treating their teen girlfriends, who generally in turn are too stupid to stop being blindsided and continue to “love them.”

She says she won’t fall for that, and she made her mind up on her own, and for that I say “good for her.”

A dog and cat with a career of her own is fine with her, and that is fine with me and her father.  Independance is better than depending on someone else for support, I always say.

Good.Now do men a favor and make sure she doesn’t change her mind.
As long as she hates men. That is one less guy who won’t get raped in divorce court.

Make sure she gets all her friends to do the same.

08-27-2006 05:02 PM

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ayecalypso53
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ayecalypso53

FYI…she doesn’t “HATE” men – she hates the way some men act.

If she hated men she’d hate her father and every other man she comes in contact with.

In a nutshell – she doesn’t want to waste her time on men that have shown immaturity and no respect for others, and unfortunately, her high school is full of them, in her view.

She doesn’t “hate” the person – only the actions – and those actions hurt others – so she wants nothing to do with people who hurt others with their actions, be they men or women.

08-27-2006 05:12 PM

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