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So where does this leave lesbians?…
eggy23
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eggy23
Thankfully, there do seem to be some intelligent non-misogynist comments on here…but take it from someone who has romped around on both sides of the fence, the grass really is greener on the other side. Ladies, you might be better off going out and finding YOURSELF a career woman.

08-27-2006 12:47 AM

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IWentThere
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IWentThere

Hear that sound boys?

That’s you expiring.

Yep, yep – like I said before.  Men are pretty much obsolete, and female bodies are much prettier to cuddle up to.

08-27-2006 12:54 AM

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sunhawk
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sunhawk
I don’t think that’s necessary, thankfully the guys i know would find the abraisive opinions of some of the men here very alien and outdated. But then again, they are artists and musicians, we tend to be an easily dismissed group *chuckle*

08-27-2006 12:57 AM

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leeraconteur
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leeraconteur

Hear that sound boys?

That’s you expiring.

Yep, yep – like I said before.  Men are pretty much obsolete, and female bodies are much prettier to cuddle up to.

Ahh, the refreshing sound of honesty and truth.

See Gents, this is what is at the core of so many Feminists and those that are disagreeing with Noer’s original, annotated article.  They demean men, consider them obsolete and apparently deficient.

This is Female Superiority.  There is no ‘equality’ at all in her attitude, mindset or outlook.

This makes her a bigot and a sexist.  This is the true heart of Feminism.

Message Edited by leeraconteur on 08-27-2006 12:59 AM

08-27-2006 12:58 AM

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sunhawk
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sunhawk

leeraconteur wrote:

Hear that sound boys?

That’s you expiring.

Yep, yep – like I said before.  Men are pretty much obsolete, and female bodies are much prettier to cuddle up to.

Ahh, the refreshing sound of honesty and truth.

See Gents, this is what is at the core of so many Feminists and those that are disagreeing with Noer’s original, annotated article.  They demean men, consider them obsolete and apparently deficient.

This is Female Superiority.  There is no ‘equality’ at all in her attitude, mindset or outlook.

This makes her a bigot and a sexist.  This is the true heart of Feminism.

Message Edited by leeraconteur on 08-27-2006 12:59 AM

It is not wise to confuse the veiws of the individual with the beliefs of a large group. Not everything that is said by someone stating they are a feminist is a reflection of feminist theory or politics. There is a spectrum within the group that one side does agree with those sentiments but another side that would very heartily disagree.

08-27-2006 01:15 AM

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leeraconteur
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leeraconteur

leeraconteur wrote:

IWentThere wrote:
Hear that sound boys?

That’s you expiring.

Yep, yep – like I said before.  Men are pretty much obsolete, and female bodies are much prettier to cuddle up to.

Ahh, the refreshing sound of honesty and truth.

See Gents, this is what is at the core of so many Feminists and those that are disagreeing with Noer’s original, annotated article.  They demean men, consider them obsolete and apparently deficient.

This is Female Superiority.  There is no ‘equality’ at all in her attitude, mindset or outlook.

This makes her a bigot and a sexist.  This is the true heart of Feminism.

Message Edited by leeraconteur on 08-27-2006 12:59 AM

It is not wise to confuse the views of the individual with the beliefs of a large group. Not everything that is said by someone stating they are a feminist is a reflection of feminist theory or politics. There is a spectrum within the group that one side does agree with those sentiments but another side that would very heartily disagree.

May I suggest that you read for comprehension?

“…at the core of so many Feminists.”

You do know what the qualifier ‘many’ means in English, yes?

This is not the first, or third or tenth or 50th time I have heard or read such an opinion from a self-identified Feminist, and many other men have had similar experiences.  The first time I heard such an opinion was ca. 1984.  It still makes the rounds today, and that it does indicates that many who self-identify as Feminist may have similar misandrist views.

Thus my statement is accurate, truthful, valid and wise.

08-27-2006 01:23 AM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

eggy23 wrote:
Thankfully, there do seem to be some intelligent non-misogynist comments on here…but take it from someone who has romped around on both sides of the fence, the grass really is greener on the other side. Ladies, you might be better off going out and finding YOURSELF a career woman.
Uh, yeah, that would work if I had any interest in women.

You suggest it as though one can just up and decide to be sexually attracted to the same sex.  That’s ridiculous.  Why bother posting if you’re going to post such drivel?

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-27-2006 01:25 AM

08-27-2006 01:24 AM

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IWentThere
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IWentThere

Oi.

This is the sound of tongue-in-cheek humour.

This is the only way to deal the the over-all misogynistic attitudes of the men on this forum.
There is no reasoning with them – they won’t listen.
There is no point insulting them (much) – it’s petty and get’s you no where.

I’m not a feminist. I’m an equalist.  I have a fiance (male), that I love very much and we treat each other with mutual respect and admiration.  He is my best friend, and I am his.  We treat each other the way we would want to be treated in turn.

If we ever decide to have kids, I will be the parent staying at home – simply because my line of work allows me to do so, and his doesn’t.

My partner is living proof that secure, happy men love, respect and admire “career” women.

However, women are more attractive then men – that part is true.

08-27-2006 01:24 AM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

IWentThere wrote:
However, women are more attractive then men – that part is true.
I strenuously disagree.  Women might be more beautiful than men, but men are just as attractive.  And for some people (myself included) they are more so.

08-27-2006 01:27 AM

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sunhawk
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sunhawk

May I suggest that you read for comprehension?

“…at the core of so many Feminists.”

You do know what the qualifier ‘many’ means in English, yes?

This is not the first, or third or tenth or 50th time I have heard or read such an opinion from a self-identified Feminist, and many other men have had similar experiences.  The first time I heard such an opinion was ca. 1984.  It still makes the rounds today, and that it does indicates that many who self-identify as Feminist may have similar misandrist views.

Thus my statement is accurate, truthful, valid and wise.

I actually have an excellent grasp of the English language, regardless of your unecessarily snarky phrasing. I was merely stating that while there may be many feminists who feel that way, I did not believe it was by any means a majority or indicative of the group as a whole due to its heterogenous makeup. You focus on one voice and ignore the plentitude of other opinions.

08-27-2006 01:32 AM

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IWentThere
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I strenuously disagree.  Women might be more beautiful than men, but men are just as attractive.  And for some people (myself included) they are more so.

Yeah.  I worded that badly.  Women are more aesthetically pleasing than men – but men are just plain yummy.

Forgive me, it’s late and I’m half in-the-bag.

08-27-2006 01:37 AM

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leeraconteur
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leeraconteur

I was merely stating that while there may be many feminists who feel that way, I did not believe it was by any means a majority or indicative of the group as a whole due to its heterogenous makeup.

You seem to think that the phrase ‘many feminists’ implies a majority of feminists.

If I intended to post that a majority of feminists felt that way, I would have posted as such.  Many does not imply most or a majority nor is it indicative of the group as a whole.

It means exactly what it says:  many.

08-27-2006 01:39 AM

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sunhawk
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sunhawk

leeraconteur wrote:
I was merely stating that while there may be many feminists who feel that way, I did not believe it was by any means a majority or indicative of the group as a whole due to its heterogenous makeup.

You seem to think that the phrase ‘many feminists’ implies a majority of feminists.

If I intended to post that a majority of feminists felt that way, I would have posted as such.  Many does not imply most or a majority nor is it indicative of the group as a whole.

It means exactly what it says:  many.

The context of your original post did lead me to think your “many” was enough to be “majority” – if you did not mean to imply that, I apologize for misinterpretting.

08-27-2006 01:48 AM

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Cassius
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Cassius
How ridiculous can you get ? Imagine telling a man getting bend for another guy to solve all of his girl problems.

Your mom must be sorry that she did not abort you.

08-27-2006 08:07 AM

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Pete
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Pete

eggy23 wrote:
Thankfully, there do seem to be some intelligent non-misogynist comments on here…but take it from someone who has romped around on both sides of the fence, the grass really is greener on the other side. Ladies, you might be better off going out and finding YOURSELF a career woman.

Fine with me – lesbians are evolutionary dead-ends anyway. Same with the over 40 career women. I say let these dykes hook up with as many career and over 40 women as they want, and weed themselves out of the gene pool while they’re at it.

It doesn’t really matter anyway, if one keeps in mind that American women are basically worthless. Besides, the supply of women worldwide far outstrips male demand several times over. So the absence of these barren or otherwise unfit-as-wives female groups would hardly be noticeable – if indeed anyone does notice.

Message Edited by Pete on 08-27-2006 12:11 PM

08-27-2006 11:50 AM

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blaineso
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blaineso
IWentThere,
Is that the message you want to send to little boys growing up in today’s society too?

What a thoughtful, caring attitude.

08-27-2006 12:57 PM

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porkchops38
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porkchops38

IWentThere wrote:
Oi.

This is the sound of tongue-in-cheek humour.

This is the only way to deal the the over-all misogynistic attitudes of the men on this forum.

There is no reasoning with them – they won’t listen.

There is no point insulting them (much) – it’s petty and get’s you no where.

I’m not a feminist. I’m an equalist.  I have a fiance (male), that I love very much and we treat each other with mutual respect and admiration.  He is my best friend, and I am his.  We treat each other the way we would want to be treated in turn.

If we ever decide to have kids, I will be the parent staying at home – simply because my line of work allows me to do so, and his doesn’t.

My partner is living proof that secure, happy men love, respect and admire “career” women.

However, women are more attractive then men – that part is true.

Hear this guys, this woman claims to be an “equalist” and she says of men, “There is no REASONING with them – they won’t LISTEN.”

ROTFLMAO! I never knew that “reasoning” was defined as “men listening to women”. MAke sure your fiance understands your definition of “reasoning” cupcake, ROTFLMAO, this is too funny.

08-27-2006 01:04 PM

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Marta2003
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Marta2003

Pete wrote:
Fine with me – lesbians are evolutionary dead-ends anyway. Same with the over 40 career women. I say let these dykes hook up with as many career and over 40 women as they want, and weed themselves out of the gene pool while they’re at it.
Sheesh, yet another winner who thinks ideas are only passed on like genes (through breeding).  How ever did my SAHM of 6 end up with a feminist like me for a daughter?

Besides, the supply of women worldwide far outstrips male demand several times over.
You’re talking to a biologist here, who knows for a fact that the ration of women to men around the world is now and almost always will be around 1:1.  Exceptions include times of war when the number of men will dip, resulting in the situation in which you imagine you and/or your buddies here would be particularly successful.

Message Edited by Marta2003 on 08-27-2006 05:04 PM

08-27-2006 05:03 PM

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labindenver
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labindenver

It doesn’t really matter anyway, if one keeps in mind that American women are basically worthless. Besides, the supply of women worldwide far outstrips male demand several times over. So the absence of these barren or otherwise unfit-as-wives female groups would hardly be noticeable – if indeed anyone does notice.
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Pete, please please do move out of this country then and hook up with some poor girl who doesn’t know any better.  Have as many as you want.  Just don’t bring them here where my tax dollars will have to support them and your offspring when they leave your sorry ass.  You represent an unfit father if you would ever let the message that “American women are basically worthless” to get to the ears of your daughter, or son for that matter.  That kind of attitude is exactly what is preventing our culture from repopulating itself.  Women do not want to marry men like you and put their children at risk.  Face it Pete.  You are a dying breed.  There are far too many men in this country who have come out of the cave and are enjoying their lives as husbands and fathers, and promoting values that make children want to marry and reproduce.  Reading your posting has definitely made me appreciate those men even more.

08-27-2006 05:29 PM

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average_reader
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average_reader

porkchops38 wrote:

IWentThere wrote:
Oi.

This is the sound of tongue-in-cheek humour.

This is the only way to deal the the over-all misogynistic attitudes of the men on this forum.

There is no reasoning with them – they won’t listen.

There is no point insulting them (much) – it’s petty and get’s you no where.

I’m not a feminist. I’m an equalist.  I have a fiance (male), that I love very much and we treat each other with mutual respect and admiration.  He is my best friend, and I am his.  We treat each other the way we would want to be treated in turn.

If we ever decide to have kids, I will be the parent staying at home – simply because my line of work allows me to do so, and his doesn’t.

My partner is living proof that secure, happy men love, respect and admire “career” women.

However, women are more attractive then men – that part is true.

Hear this guys, this woman claims to be an “equalist” and she says of men, “There is no REASONING with them – they won’t LISTEN.”

ROTFLMAO! I never knew that “reasoning” was defined as “men listening to women”. MAke sure your fiance understands your definition of “reasoning” cupcake, ROTFLMAO, this is too funny.

Read the quote.

She said


This is the only way to deal the the over-all misogynistic attitudes of the men on this forum.

There is no reasoning with them – they won’t listen.

She was not referring to ALL MEN or even ALL MEN IN THIS FORUM but simply the misogynist additudes of many men in this forum.

08-27-2006 05:48 PM

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porkchops38
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porkchops38
“She was not referring to ALL MEN or even ALL MEN IN THIS FORUM but simply the misogynist additudes of many men in this forum.”

YO IDIOT, I WAS NOT REFERRING TO ANY “MEN”, I WAS REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT SHE MORONICALLY DEFINES “REASONING” AS “MEN LISTENING TO WOMEN”.

WHEN SOMEONE SAYS “YOU (I.E. WOMEN) CANNOT REASON WITH THEM (I.E. MEN), THEY WON’T LISTEN”, THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT IN THEIR LITTLE PEA BRAINS, “REASONING” IS DEFINED AS “MEN LISTENING TO WOMEN”. THAT’S HOW THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WORKS, SO GO LEARN IT!

08-27-2006 08:56 PM

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Pete
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Pete

labindenver wrote:
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Pete, please please do move out of this country then and hook up with some poor girl who doesn’t know any better. Have as many as you want. Just don’t bring them here where my tax dollars will have to support them and your offspring when they leave your sorry ass. You represent an unfit father if you would ever let the message that “American women are basically worthless” to get to the ears of your daughter, or son for that matter. That kind of attitude is exactly what is preventing our culture from repopulating itself. Women do not want to marry men like you and put their children at risk. Face it Pete. You are a dying breed. There are far too many men in this country who have come out of the cave and are enjoying their lives as husbands and fathers, and promoting values that make children want to marry and reproduce. Reading your posting has definitely made me appreciate those men even more.

For all your empty, pompous-sounding outrage, you’re still doing a bad job avoiding the point.

The fact is, you American women ARE worthless. There is nothing in it for a man today to put up with you. Men have numerous choices as far as female companionship is concerned, and you American women with your useless careers and college degrees might as well be an afterthought. That’s the score.

08-28-2006 12:14 PM

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juliandroms
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juliandroms

Original poster said:
Thankfully, there do seem to be some intelligent non-misogynist comments on here…but take it from someone who has romped around on both sides of the fence, the grass really is greener on the other side. Ladies, you might be better off going out and finding YOURSELF a career woman.

In societies where gay marriage / domestic partnerships are allowed, the divorce rate for lesbian couples is actually higher than the divorce rate for hetrosexual couples AND homosexual men.

So I guess that leaves us a.o.k.

08-29-2006 01:16 AM

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