Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage


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Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
SM777
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SM777
This marriage problem can easily and effectively be solved.

For the sake of men in America, the institution of marriage should be completely done away with in the USA.

Not just government sanctioned marriage, but all marriages.

If men in this country want to get married, they should be very strongly encouraged to expatriate and marry in another country and stay there.

That way, they are out of the reach of the american divorce court system and the american women who choose to hate and compete with men.

The end result of this would be a happier and easier life for american men in general.

Perhaps exceptions could be made for american women to marry each other.

They appear to be more compatible with each other than with men and they won’t be lonely as they grow old.

Thus a more stable and happier society.

08-27-2006 01:48 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
tomshh
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tomshh

That is what is so funny.  Marriage ALWAYS benefited women as much, if not more than it benefited men.

A man’s biology tells him to have sex with as many women as possible, and move on to the next.  It is just our nature, that will never change.

Now women think that they can take on EVERY advantage, and men are just going to accept it.

No ladies, all you have done is allowed men to realize there is a new game in town.  PUA, look it up, it is spreading like wild fire.  We get MORE sex than in marriage, with many different women (which is all men want) without having to put up with any of your BS.

Thanks ladies, you have chased men away.  Now you think you can badger us into your new game.  Its not happening, just look at the marriage rate

Thank you for making our lives easier, by being stupid.

08-27-2006 02:08 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
Doing away with marriage would certainly put a big dent in the high divorce rate, as Eric Berne pointed out 35 years ago…

But I think one has to go farther and put the kibosh on all relationships, since the law currently doesn’t really much take into account whether the couple is married or not. I.e., a guy is on the hook for child support even if there’s no marriage. If sex is involved, one is as good as married so far as the laws are concerned.

I don’t suppose there’s any hope that women will lobby to change all these laws and make marriage safe and attractive to men once again.

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08-27-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
tomshh, you’ve heard the joke about a version of Playboy for married men… it features the same centerfold every month.

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

08-27-2006 02:10 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
tomshh
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tomshh

tomshh, you’ve heard the joke about a version of Playboy for married men… it features the same centerfold every month.
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LMAO, that is good.

What is funny, is the women who come here to argue the article are so **bleep** ignorant, they actually think they are doing men a favor by marrying us.

LMAO!!!!

Men in the past were basically lined into marriage.  It was needed for society.  Today men are no longer expected to get married, and the reason to get married is completely gone.  Women bring next to nothing to the table, they have all the laws in their favor, and yet they expect men to today CHOOSE to get married.

Chyea, Right, and monkey’s might fly out my a**.

Hence the marriage rate is at an all time low, and will deminish into non-existence.

Good work ladies.

08-27-2006 02:14 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
tomshh, I’m not sure I agree with you entirely on some of what you’ve written… There are real evolutionary forces which can drive a mating system towards monogamy. Even if a man spreads his seed as prolifically as is possible, the genes don’t survive to carry that trait forward unless the children thus produced survive to reproductive maturity themselves. So there are forces which can make it advantageous to a man to protect and provide for a mate and their kids — so long as he can be sure the kids are his. This is currently an area being very actively debated in the research circles surrounding sex selection theory. In other words, if men only wanted to have sex with as many young, good-looking/fertile women as possible, then why would a book be needed to teach them this? Wouldn’t the whole PUA schtick (or one of the several varieties of it) just come naturally, like it does with, say, cats and dogs? You don’t have to answer, as those are rhetoric questions.

Message Edited by MartianBachelor on 08-27-2006 12:37 PM

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08-27-2006 02:32 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
tomshh
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tomshh

Wouldn’t the whole PUA schtick just come naturally?
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It does come naturally.  Just we live in a society that has taugh men, that being a “man” is wrong.  So many men today act almost like women, and thus they struggle to have many women to choose from.

So now the PUA movement is not so much to teach men how to pick up babes.  It is to teach men basically how to be men again.

With that said, I agree, marriage does offer somethings for a man as well.   But overall, it is more advantagous for a woman, and that is without the ungodly laws in their favor, and the fact that in the last 20 years they bring next to nothing to the table.

Marriage used to benefit both men and women (probably women more).  Then you add in a**hole laws that only benefit women.  Then women refuse to offer anything to a man, and demand the men change for them.  Then the women are wondering why men are not getting married.

Pretty simple ladies.

08-27-2006 02:37 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
doingitmyway
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doingitmyway
The next major blow coming for marriage is the introduction of a safe, reliable and reversible male contraceptive pill. Condoms are messy and unreliable. From memory i think the stats are that if a man only uses condoms, but uses them every single time, he can expect 3 unwanted pregnancies over a period of 20 years.

Some women will say “but i’d never trust a man to take the pill” and they shouldn’t. We should all be responsible for our own contraception. But the new talking point will be “i can’t stop him from taking the pill”.

http://tinyurl.com/pjx7a

Message Edited by doingitmyway on 08-27-2006 02:47 PM

08-27-2006 02:45 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor

doingitmyway wrote: The next major blow coming for marriage is the introduction of a safe, reliable and reversible male contraceptive pill.

Like fusion energy it always seems to be at least 10 years in the future… I remember a news story about six years ago on some big breakthrough on this, but perusing the current state of affairs I don’t think anyone even has a possible real product in even early testing. It’s a vastly more difficult scientific problem than The Pill (1000 sperm per second versus one egg per month) if the thing is to be reversable upon discontinuance.

…But the new talking point will be “i can’t stop him from taking the pill”.

Yea, I know I get irate everytime I hear women talking about how men just won’t use condoms (the jerks), whereas in my experience it’s been the women pressuring me not to use a condom any longer, like don’t I trust them or something? Sure, I’m only one datapoint but I suspect there’s yet another untold story about the male experience here.

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08-27-2006 03:03 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
toadman
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toadman

Ladies, what do you think? Do away with mariage or simply redefine it to your needs?

08-27-2006 05:54 PM

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PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

Men like you just want to spread your seed.  You don’t care about the life you created.  You get upset if you have to pay child support.  This is totally ridiculous.  You blame the woman for getting pregnant when you are the one lying to her telling her she is the one just to get her into bed.The purpose of sex is to produce babies.  Most men just want the big O and forget about the kids.  Men that think like that are useless to society.

08-27-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
“Men like you just want to spread your seed. You don’t care about the life you created. You get upset if you have to pay child support. This is totally ridiculous. You blame the woman for getting pregnant when you are the one lying to her telling her she is the one just to get her into bed.The purpose of sex is to produce babies. Most men just want the big O and forget about the kids. Men that think like that are useless to society.”

Dating men from a bar is what you get. Try finding more traditional men and this would not happen. Oh wait, we are looking for foreign women sorry.

08-27-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
PANDORASBOX123
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PANDORASBOX123

You’re a freaktard—I said nothing about dating anyone from a bar?  Are you brain dead?

08-27-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
tomshh
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tomshh

You’re a freaktard—I said nothing about dating anyone from a bar?  Are you brain dead?
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Yep, because none of the guys you meet ever, ever, ever, ever go to the bar.

If you believe that, I got some beach front property to sell you.

08-27-2006 06:41 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
earthlaughs
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tomshh wrote:That is what is so funny. Marriage ALWAYS benefited women as much, if not more than it benefited men.

A man’s biology tells him to have sex with as many women as possible, and move on to the next. It is just our nature, that will never change.

I’m curious, then, why it was traditional for the man to seek a wife? Was this simply a sign of mens’ altruistic and compassionate natures? Or could it be that while having sex whenever and wherever they wanted men tended to lose track of which children were theirs? Perhaps it was helpful to have a “free” servant in the home rather than needing to hire someone to do the cooking and cleaning — not to mention the childbearing and childcare?

I agree with the original post, that doing away with the institution of marriage might benefit men. It might benefit women as well. But someone has to take care of the kids, or women are likely to rebel against all that free and easy sex.

People continue to marry, some because they actually love each other and want to grow old together. It does work for some people.

If I were looking for advice on how to make a marriage work, I wouldn’t go to two Forbes staffers, but to couples who’d managed to make it last. They’re the true experts.

08-27-2006 08:00 PM

Re: Solution: Do Away With The Institution Of Marriage
DontMarryNoer
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DontMarryNoer

There are real evolutionary forces which can drive a mating system towards monogamy. Even if a man spreads his seed as prolifically as is possible, the genes don’t survive to carry that trait forward unless the children thus produced survive to reproductive maturity themselves.

…Wow, we meet somewhere!

There are also “evolutionary forces” that push a woman to have as many kids as she can to ensure she delivers the healthiest. But since all that is hypothesized in hindsight from the conclusion based on the past, it doesn’t speak to fact or reflect the behavior today. People are free to do what they want. To look to what branches of evolutionary scientists to draw conclusions about behavior now is just making excuses. No matter who you are.

I agree the institution of marriage should be done away with … in its current form, though. As a personal choice it should still exist, for gays too. More people are cohabitating anyway. The system needs to catch up.

09-06-2006 01:04 PM

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