Why Career Women are More Likely to Get Divorced


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Why Career Women are More Likely to Get Divorced
phatkat811
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My opinion: it’s because a career woman is able to survive on her own, so she has higher expectations about what treatment she is willing to tolerate in a relationship/marriage. Educated women are more likely to have learned how to think for themselves and use their problem-solving ability to think through the pros and cons of staying in a relationship that is less than satisfactory.

The non-educated variety, however, become dependent on their husbands and have a much harder time leaving, no matter how unhappy they get. It’s either stay with THE MAN who takes care of her, or leave a bad marriage only to have to bust her a$$ at the Waffle House for a fraction of his pay.

However, men, if you do get divorced, which one is going to be granted half your pay in child/spousal support? Maybe that’s something to think about.

But what it really boils down to is how much effort both parties want to put into the relationship. Since this article was written for men, a more accurate title would be “Don’t Marry a Career Woman if You Don’t Want to Put Effort Into a Relationship; Instead Marry A Spineless Homemaker Because She’ll Be Stuck With You”.

08-28-2006 11:57 AM

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08-28-2006 12:06 PM

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cd22mf
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cd22mf
Yes yes yes.

08-28-2006 12:09 PM

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leeraconteur
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Since this article was written for men, a more accurate title would be “Don’t Marry a Career Woman if You Don’t Want to Put Effort Into a Relationship; Instead Marry A Spineless Homemaker Because She’ll Be Stuck With You”.

Everyone look at the tired, repetitive cliche’s.

-A devoted homemaker is spineless and stuck with her husband.
-Men who want one don’t want to put effort into a relationship, marriage and family.

They have nothing else to say, the same tired old bag of tricks over, and over and over.

Not a single one has refuted any support I provided for my arguments, yet these same posters keep coming back hurling insults.

All we want is to make an informed choice over whom we marry, and if we decide that we don’t want to marry a career woman, why would you disagree with our right to make our own decisions about our own lives?

There is a political school of thought, popular in the 1930’s, that has as its main tenet this principle that you know better than others do, and should force your will upon them.

08-28-2006 12:09 PM

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Jman
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The funny thing is, I’m sure many of them do have this vision of the spineless housewife. I know a few stay at home parents, spineless is not how I’d describe them.

08-28-2006 12:10 PM

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cd22mf
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I completely suppport your right to marry whomever you choose. Of course you should be entitled to search for someone whose values, beliefs, and life direction compliment yours. I think we would’t be talking about a skyrocketing divorce rate if people did more of this. If you have a preference for women who would rather stay at home, great. But not every body does.

What causes people to bristle about this article, though, is the fact that it’s not a simple statement of one person’s unique preference. The text clearly reads: “Guys…don’t marry a woman with a career.” It’s an opinion that is highly offensive to many people (not just women). And while I support one’s right to say or write anything s/he wants, that doesn’t mean that I have to support what’s being said.

In short, I see where you’re coming from. Do you see where feminists are coming from?

If not, there’s the overarching point of this entire fiasco right there.

-cd

08-28-2006 12:17 PM

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leeraconteur
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What causes people to bristle about this article, though, is the fact that it’s not a simple statement of one person’s unique preference. The text clearly reads: “Guys…don’t marry a woman with a career.” It’s an opinion that is highly offensive to many people (not just women). And while I support one’s right to say or write anything s/he wants, that doesn’t mean that I have to support what’s being said.
Considering that most of the men who posted here agree with Noer’s thesis, I’d say that his statement is spot on.

As far as the opinion being offensive, that is just too gosh darn bad.

The world is a rough place, and you’ll encounter things and opinions you don’t like.

Offensive is not illegal.  To silence someone (and pulling the original article, watering it down and deleting the bibliography is censorship…) because you find it offensive is simply censorship, and many of us have had enough of this attitude and are saying ‘no more!’.

I find tremendous swathes of Feminist Literature and Politics Offensive, yet I believe they have a right to those opinions.  I also believe those opinions are destroying society, tearing apart the family, and have crossed the line into full-blown female superiority complex.  Whenever I encounter them I make sure to disagree vehemently.

But I do think you have a right to those opinions, and to be able to express them.

When Feminism was about equality, it was spot on.  Around 1984 it morphed into ‘Woman is right, man is wrong.’ then into ‘Women are superior to men’.  It is no longer about equality, it’s about preferential treatment and superiority.  Which is why I believe that it should be rolled back to a sane median.

08-28-2006 12:28 PM

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phatkat811
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Read what I wrote again. I never said all housewives are spineless. My best friend is a stay-at-home mom and she’s a stronger person than her husband is. All I was doing was interpreting the statistics, much like the author of the article (although he presented his interpretation as fact and I presented mine as opinion).

And my interpretation of the statistics is that career women have more options than non-career women when it comes to making the choice of whether or not to stay in an unsatisfactory relationship. That is NOT a bad thing by any means. It is only a bad thing, and to be avoided, if the man choosing a potential life-mate is unwilling to put effort into a relationship and is threatened by someone who would actually have the metaphoric balls to leave if he wasn’t treating her right.

So for those men, yes, marry a homemaker, and make sure you avoid the variety of homemaker who is capable of, figuratively speaking, growing a pair.

Clear now?

08-28-2006 12:34 PM

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Romulus
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“What causes people to bristle about this article, though, is the fact that it’s not a simple statement of one person’s unique preference. The text clearly reads: “Guys…don’t marry a woman with a career.” It’s an opinion that is highly offensive to many people (not just women).”

That’s rich. Men have put up with articles, news stories, publications, rallies, etc. for years which have vilified and expressly portrayed men as neanderthals, rapists, monsters, the list goes on and on. And you are offended by a statement that says “dont marry a woman with a career?” Please get over yourself, you aren’t more important than the rest of us.

08-28-2006 12:35 PM

Re: Why Career Women are More Likely to Get Divorced
phatkat811
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Oh, and two more things:

1. Women who are arguing against this article ARE arguing in favor of equality. The article promotes inequality in that men are encouraged to follow their dreams of having a career and doing work they are passionate about. A woman, in order to be an ideal future partner, cannot do these things because she must stay at home and raise the children. If she does want a career, she is to be avoided in dating and marriage. That’s pretty unequal there.

2. If men need a Forbes author to tell them who to marry and they can’t figure out what they’re looking for on their own, that’s pretty pathetic. Guys, give yourselves a little more credit.

08-28-2006 12:39 PM

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RE: leeraconteur’s response
We do not disagree with the right to make your own choice. In fact, if you believe that every statistic in this article is accurate- then go for it. Besides, I agree that not all stay at home moms lack intelligence or drive. In fact, many are amazing people. Then ONE and ONLY thing that women are and should be upset about is the fact that this article tells men that if they marry a career woman, they’ll be unhappy. I have to say that I completely disagree due to personal experience and knowledge that media of all kinds manipulate correlations to fit their theories. I have not lost my feminine side or my sexuality due to my career. I have not pulled away from relationships WORTH having. However, I do know in the back of my mind, that if I’m ever unhappy I am strong enough, make enough money, and am completely able to be on my own- and that is what this main response was emphasizing. If you think career women are a detriment to your life- then avoid them like the plague- trust me, we’ll appreciate it. But if you do believe that, what we’re trying to say is that you will miss out on knowing or loving some of the most wonderful people who have worked even harder than men to get where they are. We worked really hard to get where we are, well most of us did, and it’s an insult to finally be here and have to read an article that says we’re not worth it.

Also, we believe that men don’t put effort into relationships due to past experiences we each have had, but we know it does not apply to all men- the same way that not all stay at home moms are stupid.
And by the way:
“There is a political school of thought, popular in the 1930’s, that has as its main tenet this principle that you know better than others do, and should force your will upon them.”
Your response follows these tennets very well- so look before you leap.

08-28-2006 12:40 PM

Re: Why Career Women are More Likely to Get Divorced
Romulus
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“And my interpretation of the statistics is that career women have more options than non-career women when it comes to making the choice of whether or not to stay in an unsatisfactory relationship. That is NOT a bad thing by any means. It is only a bad thing, and to be avoided, if the man choosing a potential life-mate is unwilling to put effort into a relationship and is threatened by someone who would actually have the metaphoric balls to leave if he wasn’t treating her right.”

And my interpretation is that career women are bad choices as spouses b/c they bring competing priorities to the table. Which leads to one side compromising for the other or both sides compromising their careers for the sake of the marriage. Both situations lead to resentment, which causes unhappiness, which is the leading cause of divorce. Traditionally, men have more to lose in a divorce – 1/2 his assets, custody rights, etc. Both our views don’t change the the conclusion of Noer’s article – that if you marry a career woman, the chances of divorce are greater. As a man, this is what I care about b/c I have the potential to lose more financially – not whether a woman is strong, weak, etc.

08-28-2006 12:40 PM

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arc
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Hey, guys- were any of these man-hating articles portraying them as the source of all evil IN FORBES??? A BUSINESS MAGAZINE??? Ever think that’s what we have a problem with???

08-28-2006 12:41 PM

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Jman
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“As a man, this is what I care about b/c I have the potential to lose more financially – not whether a woman is strong, weak, etc.”

Wow, as a man I’d be cautious, but that is because I don’t want my children to go through a divorce, and have divorced parents. I also don’t want myself and my family to go through the emotional toll.

08-28-2006 12:51 PM

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Romulus
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“The article promotes inequality in that men are encouraged to follow their dreams of having a career and doing work they are passionate about.”

Wrong, the article makes no such claims at all. It simply highlights a major issue with marrying a career woman – that it increases the chance of divorce. Divorce is a major factor to men when it comes to marriage b/c 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorces are intiated by women. The downsides of divorce for men are numerous – potential loss of 1/2 our assets, loss of custody rights, etc. All Noer is doing is raising concerns about a situation that potentially increases this negative factor of marriage.

“If men need a Forbes author to tell them who to marry and they can’t figure out what they’re looking for on their own, that’s pretty pathetic. Guys, give yourselves a little more credit.”

Knowledge is power. It helps me make informed decisions about MY life choices. In another post, a woman was telling me how I should feel about her comments. In your post, you are telling me what information I should be looking at to make MY life decisions. Like I mentioned to the other woman only DICTATORS, SLAVE OWNERS, & BULLIES behave this way. I also find it immensely amusing that you mock men for reading such information when there are literally thousands of books, media programs, articles, etc. which advise seemingly clueless women what to look for in “life, love, and relationships.”

Message Edited by Romulus on 08-28-2006 01:06 PM

08-28-2006 12:52 PM

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cd22mf
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Well, I’m at least glad that we all agree that people should have the right to state, write, and argue their opinoins. I’m not one of the people who called for this article to be taken down. I’m of the mind that we could all learn a thing or two from it. I thought (and still think) that open discussion of its points could lead to a better understanding on all sides of the issue. So, yeah, there’s my big agenda: understanding. And this right here? This is progress.

One point I would like to address:

“When Feminism was about equality, it was spot on. Around 1984 it morphed into ‘Woman is right, man is wrong.’ then into ‘Women are superior to men’. It is no longer about equality, it’s about preferential treatment and superiority. Which is why I believe that it should be rolled back to a sane median.”

I think it’s great that you agree with a feminism that holds equality as its main principle. That’s what I believe as well. And if that’s what you believe too, I suggest you work for equality too, in whatever way you find constructive. Feminism isn’t owned by women, but by anyone who believes in an equality of the sexes.

And this one:

“That’s rich. Men have put up with articles, news stories, publications, rallies, etc. for years which have vilified and expressly portrayed men as neanderthals, rapists, monsters, the list goes on and on. And you are offended by a statement that says “dont marry a woman with a career?” Please get over yourself, you aren’t more important than the rest of us.”

You’re right. It isn’t fair that men have put up with unfair and abusive treatment. I would gladly speak out against an article that did so (and have). However, I believe that history is no excuse for perpetuating unfair treatment. So, I’ll voice my opinion that I don’t agree with the sentiments in this article and engage in discussion to better understand the situation.

As for getting over myself, if you really think that I believe this is about just me, you’re missing the point. Now as for not being more important than anyone else, you’ve got a point. I believe that no one should be treated as more or less important than others. And that is why I’m disagreeing with the point of this article: it selects an entire group of people (working women) and relegates them to a less important status as those who do not work. It should be equal.

Thanks for the excellent points to think over.

-cd

08-28-2006 12:59 PM

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phatkat811
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phatkat811
The underlying problem here is that the WOMAN is the only variable. The article implies that the man is the one making the choice of who to marry and must reap the consequences of HIS choice – as if the women are the hunted, the products to be perused and bought, and they have no say in things. The bottom line of the article is this: if the man chooses a career woman as a mate, he will probably have more problems. If the man does not, he will probably have fewer problems. The man is the constant, the woman is the variable.

Some men – doctors, lawyers, and CEOs who want to have children and do not want said children put into daycare – would probably be better off not marrying a woman who wants a career. Matter of fact, I know a couple who just had a baby and are going through this issue right now. He is a lawyer in private practice who works 60+ hours a week. She wants her career, but since his is more financially successful, it’s best that she not have it. Is this HIS failure to make the proper choice?? NO! It’s THEIR failure as a couple to determine well in advance who was going to compromise and whether their goals could line up with one another.

Some women don’t want careers. Some men don’t want careers. Some men want to raise the kids. Some couples don’t want kids and they can both have their careers. Some couples put their children into good child care while they work. There are a VARIETY of choices and what we don’t need are articles that blanket all men and all career women and state that intermingling of the two will cause problems. Intermingling people who are closed-minded in any regard and do not realize that compromise is not a dirty word but a necessity in a relationship is what will cause problems.

08-28-2006 01:15 PM

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Romulus
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phatkat811:
We agree, there are numerous factors which contribute to the success or failure of a marriage. Noer has highlighted one such factor – that marrying a career woman increases the chance of a divorce. You have highlighted other factors. But you cannot validly argue that all such articles should be eliminated. Its a violation of the 1st amendment. Men and women can choose whatever they want when looking for spouses, careers, life. But don’t get mad at us when we exercise our free right to not marry a career woman for whatever reason we choose especially one as reasonable as lowering the chance of divorce.

Message Edited by Romulus on 08-28-2006 01:33 PM

08-28-2006 01:27 PM

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31Girl
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Just wondering how in the world Elizabeth Corcoran can actually cite this.

“There is, of course, the continual dilemma of who does the work around the house. But if both spouses are working, guess what? They’ve got enough income to hire someone else to fold laundry, mop floors, etc. ”

Good for you if you have the money to have someone come in and help with the menial tasks that us common folk have to do for ourselves.

And just for the record, I do agree with a lot of what Michael Noer has to say.  And I am a “career woman.”  Shocking.

08-28-2006 01:44 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius
Phatkat you see the point is in the event of a divorce it does not count how much molah who does it only counts who the woman is and who the man is. Thats right a man divorcing a career woman gets just screwed over the same in court like everyone else.

08-28-2006 01:51 PM

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Cassius
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Imagine if i have a baby gurl. What if my wife divorces me. Once my daughter will become of marriagabel age whos gonna want my girl for more than f*ck and chuck with a mother who took her hubby to the cleaners ?

08-28-2006 02:04 PM

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ForbesFireHim
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Yeah!  You’re my new best friend phatcat811!!

08-28-2006 02:14 PM

Here! Here!
anonymom
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anonymom

I agree!  A woman has more choices if she can support herself and her children on her own, and is less likely to stay in an unhappy marriage.  I have seen this many times in my life, especially doing pro bono legal work for battered women… they have no choices, and their husbands know it.

I think that is a reason that career women scare men… they know that they won’t have a monetary hold on their wives, and might actually have to work at being a good spouse in order to keep them!

08-28-2006 02:29 PM

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leeraconteur
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I think that is a reason that career women scare men… they know that they won’t have a monetary hold on their wives, and might actually have to work at being a good spouse in order to keep them!

You simply don’t get it.

We aren’t scared of career women.
We aren’t intimidated by career women.
We aren’t afraid of ‘strong’ women.

We just don’t want a career woman for a wife.

What do you have against men being able to freely chose who they get married to?

08-28-2006 03:12 PM

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ftesyektsi
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leeraconteur wrote:
I think that is a reason that career women scare men… they know that they won’t have a monetary hold on their wives, and might actually have to work at being a good spouse in order to keep them!

You simply don’t get it.

We aren’t scared of career women.
We aren’t intimidated by career women.
We aren’t afraid of ‘strong’ women.

We just don’t want a career woman for a wife.

What do you have against men being able to freely chose who they get married to?

It seems the problem is not that some men prefer to have stay-at-home wives, but that the column (Noer’s) was written from a sexist pov.

For example, (as that blog points out), he none-too-subtly takes the approach that men who marry career women are likely to be less happy, THEIR HOUSES WILL BE DIRTIER, they’ll earn less money, and they’ll (as a result of the divorce from a career “girl”) probably get sick and die.

I mean, come on.

No one is arguing that each person has a mate preference, but Noer’s reasoning left little room for any interpretation other than that he sees women as tools, or as male appendages.

What he should have done to be taken seriously was point out the pros and cons in such a way as to be understood by both genders (like mentioning that the house will be dirtier NOT because the little lady is at work, but because couples have yet to successfully creat an effective distribution of housework).

Do you see the difference?

Of course, the way Noer wrote it was effective in getting attention, which may have been his aim.  If so, nicely done!  And if he really thinks that way, well, it’s unfortunate that he holds women in such low esteem.  I expect whoever he ends up with will deserve him.

08-28-2006 03:20 PM

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leeraconteur
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It seems the problem is not that some men prefer to have stay-at-home wives, but that the column (Noer’s) was written from a sexist pov.

Too bad.

Article after article have been published in the MSM over the past 40 years that make men out to be rapists, deadbeats, violent abusers, etc.  I have been hearing that attitude from women in the real world, and reading of it since I was 10.  No more.  It is no longer acceptable.

No one mentioned that all those anti-male articles were sexist.  Did you?  Did women protest and march, or speak up and say that Feminists had gone too far?

No.

But now, when ONE article dares to criticise one aspect of one group of women, it’s sexist.

Really, that is just too gosh darn bad.  You don’t like it?  I don’t like the constant vilification of men in the MSM and via many of the women who post here disagreeing with Noer’s Thesis.

You don’t get to tell men what to think, or what type of person they get to chose as a wife.

For example, (as that blog points out), he none-too-subtly takes the approach that men who marry career women are likely to be less happy, THEIR HOUSES WILL BE DIRTIER, they’ll earn less money, and they’ll (as a result of the divorce from a career “girl”) probably get sick and die.

Considering the support he provided, and the stories of many men here, it seems reasonable that these things DO happen with many marriages to Career Women.

You doth protest too much, methinks.

You are reacting as though Noer called all career women subhuman slaves who need to be chained up in a cage.  You all are proving his point by your hysterical overreactions.

What he should have done to be taken seriously was point out the pros and cons in such a way as to be understood by both genders…

For decades the articles that criticise men have had no such editorial slant.
Again, you are holding us to a standard that your own beliefs and opinions have not been held to.  You hold others opinions to a level of scrutiny that you have not vetted your opinions with.

This is getting to be all to transparent.  You, and the others who disagree with Noer, think you are right, yet you offer de facto proof for your arguments as the existence of your opinions as being commonly held.

That just isn’t acceptable.

08-28-2006 03:36 PM

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phatkat811
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phatkat811
Romulus, I never said the article should be removed. I’m just exercising MY right to free speech. In America, you’re allowed to call bulls*** bulls*** when you see it, and that’s what I’m doing.

For those who keep whining that there are alllll these articles villifying men, I didn’t write them. Go call bull**** on their forums. Matter of fact, send me some links and I’ll probably join you.

08-28-2006 03:43 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

leeraconteur wrote:
It seems the problem is not that some men prefer to have stay-at-home wives, but that the column (Noer’s) was written from a sexist pov.

Too bad.

Article after article have been published in the MSM over the past 40 years that make men out to be rapists, deadbeats, violent abusers, etc.  I have been hearing that attitude from women in the real world, and reading of it since I was 10.  No more.  It is no longer acceptable.

No one mentioned that all those anti-male articles were sexist.  Did you?  Did women protest and march, or speak up and say that Feminists had gone too far?

No.

But now, when ONE article dares to criticise one aspect of one group of women, it’s sexist.

Really, that is just too gosh darn bad.  You don’t like it?  I don’t like the constant vilification of men in the MSM and via many of the women who post here disagreeing with Noer’s Thesis.

You don’t get to tell men what to think, or what type of person they get to chose as a wife.

For example, (as that blog points out), he none-too-subtly takes the approach that men who marry career women are likely to be less happy, THEIR HOUSES WILL BE DIRTIER, they’ll earn less money, and they’ll (as a result of the divorce from a career “girl”) probably get sick and die.

Considering the support he provided, and the stories of many men here, it seems reasonable that these things DO happen with many marriages to Career Women.

You doth protest too much, methinks.

You are reacting as though Noer called all career women subhuman slaves who need to be chained up in a cage.  You all are proving his point by your hysterical overreactions.

What he should have done to be taken seriously was point out the pros and cons in such a way as to be understood by both genders…

For decades the articles that criticise men have had no such editorial slant.
Again, you are holding us to a standard that your own beliefs and opinions have not been held to.  You hold others opinions to a level of scrutiny that you have not vetted your opinions with.

This is getting to be all to transparent.  You, and the others who disagree with Noer, think you are right, yet you offer de facto proof for your arguments as the existence of your opinions as being commonly held.

That just isn’t acceptable.

You’re making quite a few unfair assumptions about a person you don’t even know. (that would be me)

The column in question is Noer’s.  You want my response to an unfair article about men written by a woman?  Show it to me, and I’ll respond to it.  But right now, the subject is Noer, is it not?

And where are you seeing hysteria?  Methinks the manfolk doth hyperbolize too much.  And, okay – let’s say you found some hysteria.  Exactly what point of Noer’s is that proving? I don’t recall him once mentioning anything having to do with hysteria of any kind.

08-28-2006 03:51 PM

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DontMarryNoer
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Article after article have been published in the MSM over the past 40 years that make men out to be rapists, deadbeats, violent abusers, etc.

So … people can’t print articles about men who rape or are deadbeats or are violent abusers because it offends other men? Not indirectly and subjectively offending men who have never done this is more important than awareness of bad things that happen which, in this case, is done by men?! This guy wrote from a sexist perspective about certain women who make certain choices, not criminals, he got criticized for it. Nobody censored it that criticized him. Forbes realized the ridiculousness and mockability of it and did damage control.

Glad to see you have no sense of perspective.

08-28-2006 04:54 PM

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Thank you!

08-28-2006 08:10 PM

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“For those who keep whining that there are alllll these articles villifying men, I didn’t write them. Go call bull**** on their forums. Matter of fact, send me some links and I’ll probably join yo”

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there are a few examples.

08-28-2006 09:27 PM

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leeraconteur
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leeraconteur

Article after article have been published in the MSM over the past 40 years that make men out to be rapists, deadbeats, violent abusers, etc.

So … people can’t print articles about men who rape or are deadbeats or are violent abusers because it offends other men?

Your bias is very obvious.  I never posted about CRIMINALS.  I posted that they made men out to be rapists, deadbeats, violent abusers.  I refer to ariticles that paint your average man as dangerous, your average divorce man as a deadbeat.

What about men who are falsely accused, and named, yet the woman is not?
Two recent cases:  Duke Lacrosse Team, and Kobe Bryant.  These men had their reputations ruined by an accusation that any first year law student can see was lacking in merit.

That’s what I am talking about – the media slant that convicts men and doesn’t hold women accountable when they lie.

The ‘statistics’ used to vilify men in these categories have been completely debunked.

-The average man is a violent abuser.

This is a lie.  Men and women commit domestic violence in a small percentage of couples, and men and women are the perpetrators in almost equal numbers.

-The average man is a rapist.  The average woman will be raped.

Another Lie.  Rape is a terrible crime, that occurs no where near as often as scare stats say.  ‘1 in 4’ women on college campuses are raped?  Complete fiction.  There is about ONE rape per EACH college campus in the U.S. per YEAR.  Hardly something that all co-eds should be constantly vigilante about.

1 out of 10,000 or 20,000 or 50,000 is a very low risk; much lower than the overall population, where the risk is 1 out of 1,600.  1/1,600 equates to a lifetime risk of 1/20.  5%.

-Divorced fathers are deadbeats.

Another Lie.  Men who can afford to pay, do so in 90%+ of the cases, especially when they have frequent visitation with their children.  In fact, a higher percentage of women who owe CPS are delinquent, than men.

Message Edited by leeraconteur on 08-29-2006 09:56 PM

Message Edited by leeraconteur on 08-29-2006 10:00 PM

08-29-2006 09:53 PM

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