Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)


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Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
raleigh_boy
Newbie
raleigh_boy
1) Marry someone who makes you happy – whatever happy is to you.
Whether or not the person is a career person is
irrelevant.
2) Manage expectations: In my observation, unmanaged expectations are the largest relationship-killer. Be sure to manage your expectations of others, and be sure to let others know what your expectations are.
Mind-reading is not a forte for most
folks. Be honest, be loving, and don’t be
unrealistic. Otherwise, be sure to compare
your standards and expectations against
yourself before you compare to others.
3) Relationships take work. Period. Get over it.

Finally…
4) Before posting rampant generalizations about one gender or another, take a minute to look at the perspectives of others. Count to 10, then respond.

08-29-2006 01:02 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
porkchops38
Regular Contributor
porkchops38
What’s up with all these “newbie” posters claiming to be men or picking male sounding screen names, and then posting women-speak? Women, please stop wasting your time with your manipulation games, instead seek professional help. Lot’s of women tell me that prozac helps them, it could help you women too!

08-29-2006 01:11 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
MartianBachelor
Regular Contributor
MartianBachelor
Yea, raleigh_boy evidently missed my post last night, when someone else made the same assertion as #3 above, pointing to the problematic nature in applying the Protestant work ethic to relationships. What exactly is the product, and is it really worth all the required work? If one believes males are the more generous and sacrificing sex, then aren’t exhortations towards “working on the relationship” just a clever way to finagle even more out of men?

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

08-29-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
ang
Contributor
ang

Porkchop, I have been married to the same man for 24 years.  I once was a feminist and a career woman and I found my way home, and it wasn’t by becoming a religious nut or going to church like so many people believe. God is not in the churches, He is in your heart. You don’t know that becasue you don’t seek Him. http://www.heavenministries.com

I posted earlier about “where is the committment”, and you told me that I was missing the point. I replied to that post.

Any of you who missed reading that article here it is again:
http://www.heavenministries.com/articles/careerwomenmorepronetodivorce.htm

STOP DIVORCE! and Save Your Marriage!http://www.heavenministries.com/

08-29-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
raleigh_boy
Newbie
raleigh_boy
You have made an extremely interesting suppostion. I am, last time I checked, a male. Perhaps it is my successful, happy 22-year marriage that intimidates you?

08-29-2006 02:14 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
Diogetrix
Regular Contributor
Diogetrix

Yes, there are many people in blogs, message boards, and chatrooms who misrepresenting themselves. Many zionists pretend to be neutral about Israel, and many other right wingers pretend to be moderates. (Interesting that few liberals masquerade as right wingers). And, most certainly, there are many feminists/bimbos pretending to be men. I thnk for them it is easy – the American feminist is essentially anti-feminine, and anti-male. Yes, that seems to leave them nothing to be “pro,” and that is the nature of the problem: They reject heterosexual and natural sex roles and identity, and they end up searching for a female partner who will love them, but do not like femininity. It is not unusual for people to mess up their own lives, the lives of those they are involved with, and their children. There is no reason to be surprised when we see this; it’s common. Just because we can’t totally explain it shouldn’t require us to accept it, and their own rationalizations of their behavior should never cloud the fact of the damage they do.

08-29-2006 02:45 PM

Re: Complex simplicity – an age-old debate (again)
porkchops38
Regular Contributor
porkchops38

raleigh_boy wrote:
You have made an extremely interesting suppostion. I am, last time I checked, a male. Perhaps it is my successful, happy 22-year marriage that intimidates you?

It’s not a supposition as you suppose…

It’s the fact that men generally don’t spout out women-speak advice as if they care someone would listen or even heed their personal advice which is based on nothing more than their own personal opinions.

And now it’s the fact that men generally don’t point to a “successful happy 22-year marriage” as a source of intimidation to other men, only the female gender could POSSIBLY ever come out with that! LMAO!

FYI cupcake, the only men that could possibly “intimidate” me are the ones that exhibit these characteritics simultaneously:
1)In my close proximity
2)Angry at me
3)Dumber than me
4)Bigger than me

And frankly, I haven’t been in such an “intimidating” position in a long long time since I’m not a tiny fellah.

So, nice try cupcake… LMAO

08-29-2006 02:48 PM

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