I hate michael noer.


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I hate michael noer.
lawWmn
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lawWmn

He doesn’t know how hard it is to have a career and find a decent man to be with you. Most men want to f*ck you and your girlfriends without thinking about anyone but themselves. Is it too much to ask for a man to respect me and my career choices? I have worked so hard for everything I have achieved, nothing was handed to me. I had to put up with men making passes at me and telling me how stupid I am, all the while trying to get me into bed. ugh. men are such pigs.

08-29-2006 03:44 PM

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MartianBachelor
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Poor baby!

Oink, Oink.

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08-29-2006 03:50 PM

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Termi0n
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Termi0n

With or without the article, most guys dont care about your career. They are interested in you sexually or as a wife (but obviously you’re not that kind of woman). Sorry.

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

08-29-2006 03:51 PM

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lawWmn
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lawWmn

Typical pigs! Too bad you aren’t man enough to handle real women. Losers!

08-29-2006 03:58 PM

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miscwit
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Quick, before it’s too late! Get that woman two Tabbies and a subscription to Cat Fancy magazine!

08-29-2006 03:59 PM

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Termi0n
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Termi0n

lawWmn wrote:
Typical pigs! Too bad you aren’t man enough to handle real women. Losers!

Typical men actually. All men are like this. Maybe you just hate men?

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

08-29-2006 04:01 PM

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porkchops38
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lawWmn wrote:
Typical pigs! Too bad you aren’t man enough to handle real women. Losers!

I can handle a real woman! They are just a little scarce these days.

By the way, I hate people who hate people who hate! LMAO

08-29-2006 04:01 PM

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fishmonger
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If you think life’s hard as a woman, try it as a man.  Men can’t just cry and have 10 women come running to the rescue.  A man has to make the first move in relationships and society automatically blames him first if that relationship falls apart. Men are discriminated against in the courts.  Look who has to pay in a divorce.  How many women have gotten the death penalty for murder as opposed to men?  Men must be evil but women can’t be held accountable for their actions.  How many men have been acquitted because they had PMS?  Why is it that men are constantly shown as idiots who must be corrected by their long suffering wives and girlfriends on TV?  Why don’t women have to register for the draft?  Why do women have choices and men responsibilities?  Hmmm.

08-29-2006 04:01 PM

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Cassius
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Look girl you are a woman you have women programs titel IX affirmative action on your side do not come tellin me “nothing was handed to me” everything was and still is handed to a woman.

08-29-2006 04:05 PM

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lawWmn
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lawWmn

I don’t hate men you stupid pig, a real man knows not to f*ck his gf friends. Typical from you cry babies too bad your daddies wasn’t around to show you how to be respectable men.

All you keep repeating how the system is against you cowards. Man up you spineless scum.

08-29-2006 04:10 PM

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“I don’t hate men you stupid pig, a real man knows not to f*ck his gf friends. Typical from you cry babies too bad your daddies wasn’t around to show you how to be respectable men.

All you keep repeating how the system is against you cowards. Man up you spineless scum.”

“Man up”, did you hear that at a Republican Party Convention!  Be a real man and marry me!

08-29-2006 04:12 PM

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Hedgie
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“Typical from you cry babies too bad your daddies wasn’t around to show you how to be respectable men.”

Modern American career women aren’t worthy of our respect.

You’re a case in point.

08-29-2006 04:14 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
This is great!

Male behavior is the result of a breeding experiment run by females, and when they don’t like the results they blame us rats for being faulty rather than thinking through what went wrong with their assumptions and then redesigning their experiment accordingly.

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08-29-2006 04:17 PM

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bowenj10
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Wow, t he pot calling kettle black.

08-29-2006 04:17 PM

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GenghisKhan
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IawWmn,

I can empathize with how you feel. It has to be frustrating to be in such a situation where you have put in so much effort and work only to be told that its not enough or it doesn’t matter. But its not men who are to blame. Feminism, divorce laws, the drawbacks of marriage, etc. have created an environment that rewards a man to be highly selective in who he committs to and punishes the man heavily for committing to the wrong person. It also creates a dynamic where men can easily satisfy their sexual hunger without any consequences. When you put a steak in front of a dog and the dog eats it, you can’t blame the dog for acting. If anything is to blame, its the ideology that forced women to start acting like men – it works well if you want a career, more education, etc. but with marriage its a different story because its the one arena where men are the selectors. And this is why career women are so angry and panicked, its something they have zero control over and where they are at a disadvantage as Noer points out.

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 04:28 PM

08-29-2006 04:19 PM

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lawWmn
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lawWmn

Case in point? You are acting like children, we don’t sleep with children. Grow up and maybe you can have a decent wife you cowards. Going overseas for uneducated women, losers that you are. You need to go to take advantage of their unfortunate circumstances, real men don’t do that. No wonder michael noer and your ilk can’t handle a strong woman. Cowards!!

08-29-2006 04:20 PM

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fishmonger
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“Case in point? You are acting like children, we don’t sleep with children. Grow up and maybe you can have a decent wife you cowards. Going overseas for uneducated women, losers that you are. You need to go to take advantage of their unfortunate circumstances, real men don’t do that. No wonder michael noer and your ilk can’t handle a strong woman. Cowards!!”

You have got to be a man pretending to be an enraged cupcake!  Brilliant dude!

08-29-2006 04:23 PM

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Hedgie
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“You are acting like children, we don’t sleep with children”

Oh yes you do. And you’re going to tonight.

I just met a hot little Hispanic number who works as a receptionist in a neighboring office. I asked her out. We’re going to meet for drinks after work.

I’ll be sure to keep your tantrum in mind as I screw her to the headboard tonight.

08-29-2006 04:25 PM

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lawWmn
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lawWmn

So you are saying you aren’t better than dogs? Whatever!

08-29-2006 04:28 PM

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bowenj10
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Well, dear, you’re kind of arguing against yourself here.  You women do sleep with “children”.  Men are out there having non-committal sex all the time.  Aren’t you aware of this?

As for the uneducated overseas wives, have you ever left this country?  Are you part of that 18%?  Many women overseas are highly educated.  Many countries, some right at our doorstep, mandate going to university.  Latin American countries are a prime example of this.  Or maybe you’re referring to the women from Asian countries?  Well, let’s not try to compare our educations with those of Asian countries.  We don’t want to embarass ourselves now, do we?

The fact is, those “cowards”, as you called them, have seen the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and found it.  What they found was an educated, attractive, selfless woman who isn’t out for herself.  Now, if the other 49% of American men would follow suit, I think that we could eventually breed out you natives.  Call it a eugenic experiment if you will.

08-29-2006 04:28 PM

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Democles
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Dudes, lawwmn is an MRA, LOL!!!

08-29-2006 04:34 PM

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juliandroms
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lawWmm said:
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> Typical pigs! Too bad you aren’t man enough to handle
> real women. Losers!
>

Why is it that whenever a woman tells a guy to be “more of a man” or whatever, she’s always trying to convince him to do something that is not in his best interest?

Marry a lawyer? Thanks, but no thanks. Maybe a doctor, but never a lawyer.

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-29-2006 05:02 PM

08-29-2006 04:37 PM

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miscwit
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For every angry and unpleasant American careerist woman there will soon be two American men actively looking to outsource their potential wives.

The law of unintended consequences is an amazing thing indeed

08-29-2006 04:37 PM

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momjeans
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What all of you people are missing is the fact that Michael Noer’s articles hurts and insults men far more than it hurts women. We are left to believe that a man is threatened by a woman who is his intellectual equal. What he wants and needs is a mommy-wife to fully take care of all of his needs. He is incapable of looking after himself. If his wife works his health will suffer!

A man that does not help out with the children and the housework is hurting himself. The way that you build a relationship with your kids is by being there for them. Changing diapers and staying up in the middle of the night is a way for a man to bond with his kids. Forbes needs to do an article on how fathers that are not tuned into their children are liable to become detached from their children.

I have been on all sides of the fence, working single mom, in an unhappy relationship with two kids, single with two kids, stayed at home to raise small children full time. I can honestly tell you that being single is FAR better than being stuck in an unhappy relationship. If you ladies are unable to find a man that will respect and cherish you and all the talents and earning power that you bring to the relationship, then the men are the ones to lose.

08-29-2006 04:39 PM

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GenghisKhan
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Now, if the other 49% of American men would follow suit, I think that we could eventually breed out you natives. Call it a eugenic experiment if you will.
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Which is exactly what is going to happen. You can only push a man so far until he gets completely fed up. As divorce laws, anti-male attitudes, access to sex etc. progressively get worse and more available, men are going to become even more highly selective in whom we choose to marry. Eventually, the feminist career woman will be isolated and die out.

08-29-2006 04:40 PM

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Hedgie
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Momjeans wrote:

“What all of you people are missing is the fact that Michael Noer’s articles hurts and insults men far more than it hurts women.”

Uh-huh, sure it does.

Nice try, darling, but I’m not about to fall for your Jedi mind trick.

Go try it on someone else.

08-29-2006 04:44 PM

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GenghisKhan
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If you ladies are unable to find a man that will respect and cherish you and all the talents and earning power that you bring to the relationship, then the men are the ones to lose.
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Wrong, the man can just go out and pick another woman to marry. When it comes to marriage, we yield all the power because we are the selectors. And this environment that punishes the man for choosing poorly only forces us to be more selective.

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08-29-2006 04:44 PM

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Jet_Jaguar
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Case in point? You are acting like children, we don’t sleep with children. Grow up and maybe you can have a decent wife you cowards. Going overseas for uneducated women, losers that you are. You need to go to take advantage of their unfortunate circumstances, real men don’t do that. No wonder michael noer and your ilk can’t handle a strong woman. Cowards!!
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What woman doesn’t sleep with children?  You mean like Debra LaFave, Mary Kay LeTourneau, et al.?

Oh, and you’re doing great at the shaming bit, but you left out these gems:

– You men have “issues”
– You men have small penises
– You men can’t handle a strong woman (oops, I see you covered that one)
– You have Napoleonic complexes
– You men just can’t get laid
– Your fragile male egos just can’t handle smart women
– You men are just threatened by women, especially us strong, independent Amerikun wimmen

What’d I miss guys? I know there are plenty more.  I think they’ve all been used on this board in the last few days.  Not that we haven’t been hearing the same crap for the last 40 years.

I enjoy the inherent racism and xenophobia of a lot of American women when it comes to men going overseas.  And it usually comes from the self-defined liberals who embrace feminism.  I guess racism, classism, and denigration of other cultures is okay when it flatters your ego and serves your self-serving, self-obsessed purposes.

Do you really have such a high opinion of yourselves that you feel so superior to foreign women?  Or do you have such a nagging inferiority complex that you feel the need to put down others to assert your own sagging ego?  Oops, I mentioned ego, sorry.  Funny how no one really talks about the fragile female ego which can be just as fragile as they accuse mens egos of being.  And judging from all of the knee-jerk, emotion-filled histrionics, there is an ego problem.

Grow up?  You mean like not posting paragraphs that sound like an angry 2-year-old that just had her toys taken away from her?

08-29-2006 04:46 PM

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juliandroms
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>
> We are left to believe that a man is threatened by a
> woman who is his intellectual equal.

No, a man is threatened by a woman who is likely to take his children, his house and his peace of mind.

Again, no point in being brave in a society like this.

> What he wants and needs is a mommy-wife to fully take
> care of all of his needs.

Actually, that’s exactly what he *doesn’t* need. I wish I could explain it myself, but Fred Reed has done a much better job of explaining it than I ever could:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Dowd.shtml

> He is incapable of looking after himself. If his wife
> works his health will suffer!

I think he was trying to challenge the conventional canard promotes by marriage entrapmment “experts” that getting married helps a man live longer. Plus, it’s funny.

08-29-2006 04:47 PM

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momjeans
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I have an idea, why don’t you try making your point instead of making vague references to Jedi mind tricks. Or is having an intellectual debate really that difficult?

08-29-2006 04:48 PM

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GenghisKhan
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I think he was trying to challenge the conventional canard promotes by marriage entrapmment “experts” that getting married helps a man live longer.
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I always found that argument hilarious. Diet and exercise help you live longer, assuming genetics are a nonvariable. Things that a man has complete control over.

08-29-2006 04:49 PM

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porkchops38
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porkchops38

momjeans wrote:
Forbes needs to do an article on how fathers that are not tuned into their children are liable to become detached from their children.

Actually, Forbes needs to do an article suggesting to men which women would make the best wives. I mean Forbes first does an article telling us men who which women we SHOULD NOT consider to marry, so I figure the next step would be to suggest to us men which women we SHOULD consider for marriage. For example, we could take the statistics of American men who have already married foreign wives, and then let’s just see which countries around the world have women who are married to American guys, and compare and see which of those countries has the lowest divorce rates for American men who marry their native women. Perhaps Forbes could even make it a top-10 list of those countries, so a man has at least 10 countries to chose from who have the best women for wives. Well, I think it’s a good idea anyways.

08-29-2006 04:51 PM

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juliandroms
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> Actually, Forbes needs to do an article suggesting to
> men which women would make the best wives.
>

Seriously, it can be like one of those long lists that grade school girls draw up about boys:

e.g.

(1) He should have nice eyes.
(2) Always be a gentleman.
(3) He *must* open the car door for me.
(4) He should love animals!
(5) Dimples!
(6) Love to hang out with my girl friends.
(7) Always be there for me when I need to cry.
… blah blah blah blah

Cosmopolitan and those other women’s mags are basically the same garbage, only slightly less sincere.

08-29-2006 04:55 PM

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lawWmn
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If you ladies are unable to find a man that will respect and cherish you and all the talents and earning power that you bring to the relationship, then the men are the ones to lose

I know that, but I feel so empty! I am sure there are great men out there besides these misogynistic pigs.

08-29-2006 04:55 PM

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Hedgie
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I suspect your attitude prevents your finding a suitable man.

Stop blaming men. Look in the mirror.

Otherwise, get used to a long life of Murder She Wrote re-runs and midnight runs to the grocery store for more Friskies.

08-29-2006 04:59 PM

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Pete
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Hey, Cupcake, go back to the kitchen and make me that sandwich I told you. And don’t forget the beer either.

{slaps her ass as she trots back towards the kitchen}

08-29-2006 05:02 PM

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Stacey35
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lawWwmn – You have got to be kidding me. Can I ask something? How old are all  you that are going back and forth here. With a mouth like that, you wonder why you are single and have a hard time finding someone. Give me a break, its girls like you that make it hard for everyone else. To me its sad that you are so defensive on this issue.

Did you ever hear that if youre not looking for it, it will find you. I personally have a great career, a 10 year old that is the light of my life, and GUESS WHAT if I get married or if I dont, it is not the main focus of my life.

Message Edited by Stacey35 on 08-29-2006 05:19 PM

08-29-2006 05:02 PM

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Jet_Jaguar
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I have heard a rumour that, once in a land long ago, there was a time when a man looked forward to matrimonial union with his beloved female, and that she could be expected to contribute to his life…. “their life together…” something like a true partnership.
Now, sadly, men (myself included) view all women as suspected predators, parasites, gold-diggers, skanks.
What caused this terrible corrosion of male idealism?
In a word … feminism!
Or, to be more precise …. basic, primordial female nature.
Feminism is only the latest variation in the ancient gender extortion racket, refined through modern legalistic and political coercion.
Women have always sought to control men, through passive-aggression and sexual barter…
Men have always idealistically resolved to make the best of wussified indentured servitude.
What is different and new today is that growing numbers of men are concluding that the cost-benefit ratio no longer holds….
Women’s “exchange value” is declining rapidly, as they have less and less to offer to men who are unwilling to sacrifice their personal and financial independence in a legal environment that defines every married male as “prey yet to be harvested.”
I could be wrong.
Maybe there are a lot of men who are desperately optimistic, and need to believe (on faith) in the virtues of the fairer sex.
That’s getting to be a very elite club, made up of guys who’s “special one” has not yet called her lawyer.

08-29-2006 05:13 PM

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bowenj10
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You see, this is yet another trick that the feminazis have been trying to push.  We see it commercials, tv shows, and movies all the time (Jack-In-The-Box, Everybody Loves Raymond, god knows how many movies).  The fact is muffin, we men were living just fine before you came along and “rescued” us.  We’re not starving when you find us, are we?  That should be a clue that we have managed to learn how to feed ourselves.  Are we wearing dirty, smelly clothes (if so why bother marrying a guy like that, right)?  If not, someone is doing that laundry.  Is he walking on cockroaches and bread crumbs?  Someone is cleaning the house.

Those things that we want you to do for us (cooking, cleaning, laundry, and polishing the knob) are the things that show us that you appreciate what we do for you (which so many of you take for granted).  Those things let us know that you appreciate us buying the food for you to cook, buying all of that cute crap to decorate the house with, buying the frigging house, buying the car so you can pick up the groceries, and on and on.  If you aren’t doing any of those things, why bother being married to you?  We would be much better off if we did those things ourselves.  Then, we could go out with whomever we wanted to, without all of the incessant complaining about how inferior we are.

“The way that you build a relationship with your kids is by being there for them.”

Parenting is a job that REQUIRES two parents.  We are now seeing the results of the failed breeding experiments of single mothers (go find one of the countless studies about that).  The other way that you build a relationship with your children is by teaching the kid determination, the value of hard work, discipline, and motivation, all of which are not the strongest qualities of many women.  There are things that men teach their children and things that women teach their children.  One parent can’t do both.  Regardless of what the Gloria Steinem’s, Betty Friedan’s, and Hillary Clinton’s of the world may think, it takes two parents to raise a child.  It doesn’t take the village, or the government, or only a mother.  It takes both parents.

“If you ladies are unable to find a man that will respect and cherish you and all the talents and earning power that you bring to the relationship, then the men are the ones to lose.”

Again, this just shows how selfish and narcissistic you are.  The only loser in this equation is the child.  We men were doing fine before you came along, and we’ll do fine after you leave.  The children are the only ones on the loser end of the stick here.

08-29-2006 05:29 PM

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juliandroms
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It’s true. Feminism never had much to say about the topic of emotions & romance. Its focus was exclusively on two things – economics, and law.

It’s time for men to clean their own house.

08-29-2006 05:29 PM

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I always clean my own house because I can’t find a woman that knows how to clean the house to my standards anyways. The first thing I clean in my house is always the clock, because there’s no way in hell i’m ever letting a woman clean my clock!

08-29-2006 05:45 PM

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Hedgie
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“If you aren’t doing any of those things, why bother being married to you?  We would be much better off if we did those things ourselves.”

Excellent point.

There is an older Armenian woman who works in our operations center. She’s very conservative and is always trying to set me up with her drop dead gorgeous, blonde, 24 year old daughter.

Well, the other day for lunch I brought in some food I had made the night before. Nothing fancy, just some grilled chicken and salad. The Armenian woman looked at the plate, looked at me, and yelled: “If you can fix that, you obviously don’t need a wife!”

I was pretty stunned.

The point here is, circumstances out of my control, such as the lack of agreeable women, have forced me to learn to cook for myself.  And yet, this is supposed to render me over-qualified for a wife.

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Unbelievable.

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-29-2006 06:18 PM

08-29-2006 06:14 PM

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I’m a better cook than most women.

I do thai food, indian food, sushi, italian food, fish, know how to deal with delicacies like foie gras, morels blah blah blah, and I know where to find outstanding ingredients. Pretty much, if I can think of it, I can make it taste great.

08-29-2006 06:19 PM

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I’m a better cook than most women.

I do thai food, indian food, sushi, italian food, fish, know how to deal with delicacies like foie gras, morels blah blah blah, and I know where to find outstanding ingredients. Pretty much, if I can think of it, I can make it taste great.
Darn Dude, no wonder some are going gay! I’m willing to play as long as I am butch and my rear is an exit only. LOL

08-29-2006 06:34 PM

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lawWmn
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Stacey35 wrote:
lawWwmn – You have got to be kidding me. Can I ask something? How old are all  you that are going back and forth here. With a mouth like that, you wonder why you are single and have a hard time finding someone. Give me a break, its girls like you that make it hard for everyone else. To me its sad that you are so defensive on this issue.

Did you ever hear that if youre not looking for it, it will find you. I personally have a great career, a 10 year old that is the light of my life, and GUESS WHAT if I get married or if I dont, it is not the main focus of my life.

Message Edited by Stacey35 on 08-29-2006 05:19 PM

Don’t blame me for your own problems. How is it that I make it hard for everyone else, you are being catty, **bleep**. You are the one that got pregnant and could not keep your man. I don’t give it up to anyone just because I want a relationship. Loser!

08-29-2006 06:44 PM

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Hedgie
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You certainly don’t make it hard for me.

Message Edited by Hedgie on 08-29-2006 06:50 PM

08-29-2006 06:50 PM

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juliandroms
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I’m a better cook than most women.

I do thai food, indian food, sushi, italian food, fish, know how to deal with delicacies like foie gras, morels blah blah blah, and I know where to find outstanding ingredients. Pretty much, if I can think of it, I can make it taste great.
Darn Dude, no wonder some are going gay! I’m willing to play as long as I am butch and my rear is an exit only. LOL

Aha that’s funny.  Unfortunately, I don’t yet know how to sem*n palatable…

Ahem. <awkward silence>

So.. anyone know what the weather is like in NY?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-29-2006 07:06 PM

08-29-2006 07:05 PM

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lawWmn
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juliandroms wrote:
I’m a better cook than most women.

I do thai food, indian food, sushi, italian food, fish, know how to deal with delicacies like foie gras, morels blah blah blah, and I know where to find outstanding ingredients. Pretty much, if I can think of it, I can make it taste great.
Darn Dude, no wonder some are going gay! I’m willing to play as long as I am butch and my rear is an exit only. LOL

Aha that’s funny.  Unfortunately, I don’t yet know how to sem*n palatable…

Ahem. <awkward silence>

So.. anyone know what the weather is like in NY?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-29-2006 07:06 PM

Ewww….You sick perverts! No wonder you are rapists and child molesters. Ughhhh!!! I am calling the police!!

08-29-2006 07:14 PM

Re: I hate michael noer.
juliandroms
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lawWmm please tell me you don’t do comedy your joke was not even funny.

08-29-2006 07:20 PM

Re: I hate michael noer.
Democles
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juliandroms wrote:
I’m a better cook than most women.

I do thai food, indian food, sushi, italian food, fish, know how to deal with delicacies like foie gras, morels blah blah blah, and I know where to find outstanding ingredients. Pretty much, if I can think of it, I can make it taste great.
Darn Dude, no wonder some are going gay! I’m willing to play as long as I am butch and my rear is an exit only. LOL

Aha that’s funny.  Unfortunately, I don’t yet know how to sem*n palatable…

Ahem. <awkward silence>

So.. anyone know what the weather is like in NY?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-29-2006 07:06 PM

Man good humor, too bad the psycho case got to it before me.

08-29-2006 07:29 PM

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juliandroms
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Yeah.

I do prepare a mighty good home-made tartar sauce though.

What about you Democles?

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08-29-2006 07:35 PM

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earthlaughs
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Termi0n wrote:Typical men actually. All men are like this. Maybe you just hate men?

Don’t believe him. Take heart and be choosy. The men who refuse to understand the women in their lives are the losers. Ask my husband. There are enlightened men out there who will appreciate you and what you’ve done with your life. Apparently this board just happens to attract a lot of Neandertals. (Or maybe I’m insulting Neandertals by saying that.)

I do wish more good men would respond. Hopefully they’re just busy working or out there looking for you. Men who want women to truly *share* their lives with rather than women they can dominate.

Have you ever noticed that many of the men in the work world who are most willing to mentor younger women are men who have daughters? I found that in my career. Something happens when a man realizes his own daughter’s future may depend on how much respect she can get in life and in her work. It changes his perspective, if he didn’t already have a clear and fairminded viewpoint to begin with.

08-29-2006 07:35 PM

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Democles
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juliandroms wrote:
Yeah.

I do prepare a mighty good home-made tartar sauce though.

What about you Democles?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-29-2006 07:37 PM

Sure can whip a good one too, but the wife prefers to do it herself while I sit back and relax, good woman that she is.

08-29-2006 07:49 PM

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Democles
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earthlaughs wrote:

Termi0n wrote:Typical men actually. All men are like this. Maybe you just hate men?

Don’t believe him. Take heart and be choosy. The men who refuse to understand the women in their lives are the losers. Ask my husband. There are enlightened men out there who will appreciate you and what you’ve done with your life. Apparently this board just happens to attract a lot of Neandertals. (Or maybe I’m insulting Neandertals by saying that.)

I do wish more good men would respond. Hopefully they’re just busy working or out there looking for you. Men who want women to truly *share* their lives with rather than women they can dominate.

Have you ever noticed that many of the men in the work world who are most willing to mentor younger women are men who have daughters? I found that in my career. Something happens when a man realizes his own daughter’s future may depend on how much respect she can get in life and in her work. It changes his perspective, if he didn’t already have a clear and fairminded viewpoint to begin with.

I take insult to that, we are good men here. I want my daughter to be happy, she tells me that she wants to be a doctor and a mommy. I tell her that she can, but she must work really had for it. (That and to be prepared to buy some smart guys **bleep**. j/k)

This is too much, I am out.

Cheers,

08-29-2006 07:55 PM

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If I got a dollar for everytime I heard a woman threaten to call the police on me, I’d be a rich man and the police would be very busy — and these women wonder why so many men are flatly refusing to even consider marrying a woman so low of caliber?!? What ever happened to that “I am woman, hear me roar!” jargon crap?? All I ever see in real life is these feminazi “strong women” cry “Stop that, or I’m calling the police!” Just last week, I’m at the local Wally World, and I go to my car to leave. I get in my car, and I start backing my car out of the parking stall, but I can only see directly behind me because there’s one of those huge gas-guzzlin SUV’s (probably driven by an entitlement princess who never hauls anything inside her SUV that’s bigger than a make-up case, at any given time) blocking my view, so I back out very slowly (just in case there’s some psycho **bleep** flying through the parking lot). As I’m backing out, I hear this incessant honking, as if a small child just got ran over by somebody! I had only backed out of the parking stall about 5 feet or so, so I just park my car where it is, and walk back to see what all the honking is about. Once I walk back and clear the huge SUV that was blocking my view in that one direction, I see a car about 30 feet back honking incessantly with a woman driver and what appeared to be a man in the passenger seat, both appeared to be about in their mid-20’s. Her car was so far back from me, that I assumed that she couldn’t be honking at me, so I looked around for small children that she must have ran over. I didn’t see any small children or blood lying on the pavement around her car, so then I glanced at the woman driver and she is staring at me with a look from hell, then once she notices she has my attention she starts throwing her arms wildly around as if she just won the lottery or something. I still am confused as to what the hell is going on, so I shrug my shoulders as if to say “what’s the problem?” I figure if she is using “sign language”, (albeit she was using sign language that only a she could understand, of course), so I used some universal sign language by just shrugging my shoulders with hands outward and palms up, i.e. “What’s the problem?” Well, I guess I was not entitled to ask any questions of that nature to this American woman, because after I shrug my shoulders, she replied by flipping me the bird. At this point, I begin to see that sign language usage must be causing some kind of miscommunication, so I began to take a walk toward her car so we can have a little talk, and see what the problem is. As I start walking toward her car, the man in the car (I presume to be her boyfriend), jumps out of the passenger side of the car and begins to walk toward me while acting all macho, almost like an ape (with his back hunched over a bit and swinging his arms slightly). Now keep in mind, she is driving the car and honking, but when she gets her hands in trouble by laying on the horn and flipping the bird, she tells her lapdog to get out and perhaps start chewing on my shoe like any good attack dog. Well, I’m a big guy so I’m not afraid of much, other than maybe situations where I don’t have control – like divorce court, so I just continue walking toward her boyfriend who’s acting like an ape. While her ape-like boyfriend and I are walking toward each other, she suddenly decides to put her car in reverse and back away! As she starts backing away, her ape-like boyfriend hears her screech her tires in reverse, he turns around and sees she’s backing the car up, so he panics and runs back to her car like a dog with his tail between his legs. I just about busted a gut laughing when I saw that! Macho-ape man to sissy with his tail between his legs in 2.24 seconds! I could have left then and there, because her boyfriend’s actions were worth more than the price of admission already, but I guess I really wanted to find out what the whole problem was in the first place. So, while her lapdog was catching his ride home to his kennel, I continued to walk toward her car which was by now a few hundred feet away after she threw it in reverse and backed-up. I had just got done working all day and I was tired, so rather than walk all that way, I walked far enough so I’m within an earshot of the psycho, and I hollar “What are you honking about?”, and she yells back, “You’re an a$$hole!” So, I yell back, “You didn’t answer the question!”, then she yells back, “You almost hit my car when you were backing up!” I then yelled back, “I was backing up at 2 mph, because in case you didn’t notice, there’s a huge SUV blocking my view here, and if I backed up any slower you’d probably think I’m parked and still hit me.” Seeing that I was making light of what she thought was a life and death serious situation, she got angrier and then came the police threat, she hollared back, “Do I need to call the police, I can call the police right now on my cell phone!” The funniest thing was that there was a police officer about 50 feet away that she didn’t even notice, and he was watching the whole thing, so when she said that she was going to call the police, I glanced over at the police officer who was holding a notepad and pen while looking at me, and when I looked at him, he began shaking his head back and forth as if to say to me, “No, I don’t want to have to waste my time responding to miss psycho **bleep**’s call, please just get in your car and go home before she calls 911 and I have to walk over there.” I just smiled at the officer, turned around and walked back to my car and went home.
That my friends, is the real life psycho biatches that are out there in America today, I run into them all the time through no fault of my own. I’m having a hard time seeing where all these “strong independent” women are, all I ever see is women like these who are only “strong and independent” enough to honk horns and flip fingers, but when a man happens to question their antics, suddenly they revert from “strong and independent” to “weak and defenseless” in 1.015 seconds, threatening to call the police!

08-29-2006 09:08 PM

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juliandroms
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Earthlaughs said:
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> Take heart and be choosy.
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I think many of these men are heeding your advice.

08-30-2006 01:51 AM

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PatriarchVerlch
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Spinless scum? I’ll wear that as a bad there little sister.

Remeber most men wouldn’t let their buddies say what you just said.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 03:42 AM

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lawWmn,

Don’t blame me for your own problems. How is it that I make it hard for everyone else, you are being catty, **bleep**. You are the one that got pregnant and could not keep your man. I don’t give it up to anyone just because I want a relationship. Loser!

My response to you (although it does not deserve a response) is…… you are on the posting going on and on about how men want to (and I quote) f*** your girlfriends. Could it possibly be that (1) you cannot please a man; (2) youre like 200 pounds and butt ugly; (3) once you open your mouth and speak your barking the interest is gone.

Just to advise you (since you know ohh so much about me) I had a child OMG what a big deal. The key thing being is his father was a loser (sort of like you maybe I should set you up with him)  I dont need him in my life. I make over six figures with my profession,  oh and no I am not 200 pounds and have a problem finding someone, actually I am 5’9 and 105 pounds.

So before you call someone a loser, do me a favor, take a look in the mirror first (that is if you havent broken all of them already)

Idiot

Message Edited by Stacey35 on 08-30-2006 10:29 AM

08-30-2006 10:17 AM

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earthlaughs
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juliandroms wrote:I think many of these men are heeding your advice.

EVERYONE should be choosy. I see men here blaming all women for what’s been done by specific women to them or their friends. I’ve heard the same things from women. We all get crapped on from time to time, or deceived. I don’t know anyone who’s been in this world more than a few years who hasn’t had an experience with a person who’s simply not nice. It’s unfair to blame that on every new person you meet, before you even know them. But the remarks made here by some of the men are simply sweeping insults against the entire female gender, and meant to inflame. (I said SOME, Democles, not all. If you choose to identify with what I said as referring to you personally, that’s your doing, not mine. You must admit there are some pretty crass opinions about women in general (not just some women) being spouted here.)

08-30-2006 03:08 PM

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juliandroms
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juliandroms

earthlaughs wrote:

juliandroms wrote:I think many of these men are heeding your advice.

EVERYONE should be choosy. I see men here blaming all women for what’s been done by specific women to them or their friends. I’ve heard the same things from women.

Really? How many women do you know who have had their kids and house taken from them?

And yes, EVERYONE should be choosy. And so it seems, there are a great many men who consider a career woman to be a poor choice as a wife and mother for their children.

Big deal.

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-30-2006 03:19 PM

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juliandroms wrote: Really? How many women do you know who have had their kids and house taken from them?

And yes, EVERYONE should be choosy. And so it seems, there are a great many men who consider a career woman to be a poor choice as a wife and mother for their children.

Big deal.

Personally, among people I know well, I know a woman whose ex took the car she’d paid for, and which she needed to get to work and support her daughter. He sold it, keeping the money for himself. I know a woman whose ex got sole custody of their three kids, and she had to pay child support and take a second job and live in a tiny studio apartment to pay it. I know a woman who was the dutiful, meek housewife all her life and raised four children, whose husband insisted on handling the money because he said *it was his*. He left her with a huge amount of debt when he died so she could no longer afford her home. I could tell you more stories, even worse, if I had all day.

I realize the child custody/support decisions are typically hard on men, and I don’t agree with that either. My brother has struggled for years with child support — even though my mom provided all the daycare for his kids for free. I think there needs to be change. But how does that justify blaming women in general for all your troubles? It’s judges making those decisions. We do need to make sure kids are taken care of when there’s a divorce.

So, dads, come up with a better solution. Bitching about it doesn’t help. Instead of hating women because of this, why not get active politically and try to change how the child custody and child support laws are carried out so they’re more fair?

In business, if all you did was sit around complaining about the problems, the competition, the customers, the employees, you wouldn’t get much done, and you’d likely be fired. Right? Do something constructive about it!

08-30-2006 04:06 PM

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juliandroms
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earthlaughs wrote:

So, dads, come up with a better solution. Bitching about it doesn’t help. Instead of hating women because of this, why not get active politically and try to change how the child custody and child support laws are carried out so they’re more fair?

We do. I am very politically active in my state. I have been to the state capital.

And do you know who we have to contend with when we arrive there? Do you know who is blocking these reforms?

Feminists.

So in fact, there is a very good reason for us to be pissed.

08-30-2006 04:25 PM

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juliandroms
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P.S. I supposed it never occurred to any of your female friends about whom you speak to offer shared (not joint but shared) custody to any of these fathers who supposedly abandoned them?

P.S. A lot of people die broke. Medical expenses, other unforseen things. Sounds like I should feel sorry for the guy.

08-30-2006 04:28 PM

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earthlaughs
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earthlaughs

juliandroms wrote:We do. I am very politically active in my state. I have been to the state capital.

And do you know who we have to contend with when we arrive there? Do you know who is blocking these reforms?

Feminists.

So in fact, there is a very good reason for us to be pissed.

Then let me applaud you and say, I admire your efforts.

I would suggest that if the feminists still disagree, then negotiations need to begin. If you can convince a few women to work with you it might help open doors with them. In any case, I suggest approaching the feminists and finding out precisely what aspects of what you’re trying to do they disagree with. If you can reason with them, show them that your way is better for everyone, that you really just want fairness, or if they can point out items that really can be improved on, you can come up with something both sides will agree on. I’d suggest the keywords for the approach be “for the kids” — and I don’t mean that in any exploitive sense. I’m sure that any fair-minded divorced dad or mom wants the solution that works best for the kids in the long run.

The Constitution wasn’t born in a day, it took a lot of back and forth and revision before everyone involved could agree on it. But getting pissed, though it’s a natural response, just engages the limbic brain and shuts off reasoning. (That happens to me, here, when I see blanket insults against women. My limbic brain takes over.)

I really wish you well with your efforts. I think if the system was perceived as more fair by everyone, there’d be less hostility in divorce with children, and that can’t help but be better for the kids.

08-30-2006 04:52 PM

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juliandroms
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earthlaughs wrote:

I would suggest that if the feminists still disagree, then negotiations need to begin. .. In any case, I suggest approaching the feminists and finding out precisely what aspects of what you’re trying to do they disagree with. If you can reason with them, show them that your way is better for everyone, that you really just want fairness, or if they can point out items that really can be improved on, you can come up with something both sides will agree on.

Of course we have to negotiate with them. You don’t think we’ve tried?

Sorry, they can’t be reasoned with.

It’s like trying to convince the Catholic church to endorse abortion – it just not possible, no matter how reasonable or politically adept you are at tyring to do it.

We’ve spoken with NOW and various other feminists who have come to tstify against our bills. Their belief is that “women and children” are too much in danger from fathers to allow fathers the legal right to legally challenge a woman’s position with regard to child custody.

Their contention is that they will only support the status quo. The status quo in every state in the U.S. (written into the law) says that a judge is not allowed to enter an order of shared custody in a custody dispute. Thus, the only way a man can get truly shared custody (not just joint custody typically once every other weekend visitation but real shared custory) is if he convinces his wife to go along with it, she agrees, & they settle out of court. In fact, many of the feminists we try to negotiate maintain that courts allow fathers *too much* discretion in contacting their children in cases where mothers are uncomfortable with the father’s presence.

They are completely unwilling to negotiate on this.

So now do you understand why I can’t stand the f*cking National Organization of Women?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-30-2006 06:16 PM

08-30-2006 06:07 PM

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earthlaughs
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juliandroms wrote: They are completely unwilling to negotiate on this.

So now do you understand why I can’t stand the f*cking National Organization of Women?

Message Edited by juliandroms on 08-30-2006 06:16 PM

Given that position on their part, yes, I understand. But please don’t hold it against all career women or even against all feminists. (I’m not a member of NOW — I’ve always thought their stand on issues was too rigid. In fact I’m leery of most political orgnizations and parties because I usually find one issue or another that we disagree on.)

Thank you for explaining your position. I still wish you well with your efforts.

08-30-2006 07:43 PM

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