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Marriage Strike! Marriage Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike!
SM777
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SM777
Gentlemen, come on. Deep down you know the significance of this.

08-29-2006 10:49 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
Yes strike and if you break the line make sure you marry a foreign woman.

08-29-2006 10:52 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

I don’t think you’ll be missed, really…

the mistake you’re making is that you think “all” women are out trying to get married.

Fact is, you all are running from hypotheticals, from imaginary women out to snatch you up.

Have you nothing more concrete to run from?  Like trans fats?  Something?  Anything?

08-29-2006 10:55 PM

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SM777
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SM777
Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-29-2006 10:55 PM

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zacharias
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“Fact is, you all are running from hypotheticals, from imaginary women out to snatch you up.”

Wow! So all these women here acting pissed off at the suggestion that someone might not want to marry them are just “hypotheticals.”

They sure are a noisy bunch of “hypotheticals.”

08-29-2006 10:57 PM

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SM777
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SM777
“I don’t think you’ll be missed, really…

the mistake you’re making is that you think “all” women are out trying to get married. ”
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The mistake you make is that you actually think I care.

In the social scene, I ignore feminists like you and enjoy doing it.

In my age group, normal women outnumber men due to the shorter male lifespan, and occassionally, yes they form a proverbial line to meet me.

08-29-2006 10:59 PM

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Hujo
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I think we just need to support articles like this, expose the double standards in the media and work harder to eradicate what feminism has become. If you meet a cool little lady along the way and want to be with her forever so be it.

The reasons articles like this are so important is to let men know what they are getting into and what’s more, we cant change a system we don’t know about feminists are stagnating us this way, most men don’t think of these things or their outdated chivalry makes them feel such thoughts betray mistrust, men need to know about divorce rates, which women divorce more, men need to know about our child support system our family courts, but as we see feminists don’t want that to happen. They want a media that portrays men as loser’s as bad violent people, inadequate husbands and portrays women as perfect and without flaw. AND THEY HAVE IT.

Forbes bent over and took their media control like a b1tch.

08-29-2006 11:34 PM

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GenghisKhan
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the mistake you’re making is that you think “all” women are out trying to get married.
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I wouldn’t say all women. But definitely a signifcant amount of women. Why else would there be an entire industry developed around weddings? Heck they even have magazines that solely discuss weddings! I highly doubt these are primarily aimed at men. In fact $40-70 billion is spent per year on weddings. Sounds significant to me.

http://www.sellmoreweddings.com/wedding_industry_statistics.html

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 11:45 PM

08-29-2006 11:38 PM

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tomshh
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tomshh

It is sure funny how these feminists idiots come here and tell us men…

“you will not be missed”

Yet they spend their free time trying to change our minds.

Hmmmm, me thinks we will be badly missed, and I love it.

08-30-2006 12:39 AM

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warbaby
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warbaby

Sounds like panic to me.

08-30-2006 01:07 AM

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PatriarchVerlch
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Yeah, we will sit here and watch their 360 eggs dry up at 36, when the last one falls out!!!

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 02:40 AM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

zacharias wrote:
“Fact is, you all are running from hypotheticals, from imaginary women out to snatch you up.”

Wow! So all these women here acting pissed off at the suggestion that someone might not want to marry them are just “hypotheticals.”

They sure are a noisy bunch of “hypotheticals.”

I challenge you to find and quote a response from a woman “acting pissed off at the suggestion that someone might not want to marry them.”

If that’s what you honestly think the reaction is about, you’re not a very adept reader.

And if you are an adept reader, then you are intentionally missing the point so you can play the “women suck!” game like some rock-throwing child (which is no way to have an adult discussion).

08-30-2006 07:22 AM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

GenghisKhan wrote:
the mistake you’re making is that you think “all” women are out trying to get married.
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I wouldn’t say all women. But definitely a signifcant amount of women. Why else would there be an entire industry developed around weddings? Heck they even have magazines that solely discuss weddings! I highly doubt these are primarily aimed at men. In fact $40-70 billion is spent per year on weddings. Sounds significant to me.

http://www.sellmoreweddings.com/wedding_industry_statistics.html

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 11:45 PM

I don’t understand that, myself, but if you watch Bridezillas you’ll see the women are far more interested in wearing the dress than they are in being with the man.  The man, in many cases (on that show), is really just a necessary item to bring her to the altar.

And, um, do you know that 95% of men do the PROPOSING?

(Don’t tell me y’all are so weak-willed that you’re “manipulated” into asking.  Almost every man I’ve met wants to get married, and furthermore, wants to have kids.  Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that women are the only ones who want that stuff?)

08-30-2006 07:25 AM

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leeraconteur
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I don’t understand that, myself, but if you watch Bridezillas you’ll see the women are far more interested in wearing the dress than they are in being with the man.  The man, in many cases (on that show), is really just a necessary item to bring her to the altar.

Right!  The man is often just a means to an end.

Being more concerned with have a great wedding, rather than having a great marriage, speaks volumes for those women.

08-30-2006 07:53 AM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

leeraconteur wrote:
I don’t understand that, myself, but if you watch Bridezillas you’ll see the women are far more interested in wearing the dress than they are in being with the man.  The man, in many cases (on that show), is really just a necessary item to bring her to the altar.

Right!  The man is often just a means to an end.

Being more concerned with have a great wedding, rather than having a great marriage, speaks volumes for those women.

Hey, I’m AGREEING with you.  But, make no mistake:  I’m not pigeonholing ALL women.  I’m speaking about a very specific group of women who end up on Bridezillas.  It is those SPECIFIC women I don’t understand…but it would be a fallacy to let those women represent ALL women.

08-30-2006 08:06 AM

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Anti_Feminist
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Anti_Feminist

(Don’t tell me y’all are so weak-willed that you’re “manipulated” into asking.  Almost every man I’ve met wants to get married, and furthermore, wants to have kids.  Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that women are the only ones who want that stuff?)
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You seem to be confusing striking with quitting! Its not that we don’t want to marry, its that we don’t want to marry YOU! Foreign brides are still all the rage, and yes most men (not me but still most men) want to find a way to pass on our legacy. They just aren’t willing to sacrifice their lives to black widow feminists to do it!

08-30-2006 08:07 AM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

Anti_Feminist wrote:
(Don’t tell me y’all are so weak-willed that you’re “manipulated” into asking.  Almost every man I’ve met wants to get married, and furthermore, wants to have kids.  Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that women are the only ones who want that stuff?)
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You seem to be confusing striking with quitting! Its not that we don’t want to marry, its that we don’t want to marry YOU! Foreign brides are still all the rage, and yes most men (not me but still most men) want to find a way to pass on our legacy. They just aren’t willing to sacrifice their lives to black widow feminists to do it!

I love the way you’re using foreign as some kind of euphemism for “traditional.”  (Or, more accurately, “subservient.”)

Ahhh…if only there were a time machine that would transport you back to 1940, huh?  Where ARE the most dominated women, anyway?  Iran?  Afghanistan?  Why not get one of them?  They’d probably make you feel very powerful and masculine, what with the gratitude they’d show you just for being allowed to have their kitchen curtains open.

08-30-2006 08:14 AM

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Anti_Feminist
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My My My… aren’t we threatened by the words foreign bride . in fact your so scared of being replaced that you have to hurl insults at the very mention of the idea. Their is nothing in that post about dominating women and you know it! The fact is foreign women make good life partners, which means solid emotional support strong core values, and fun filled lifestyle. Where western woman mean scathing vicious entitlement princess that offer nothing and expects everything. Foreign women have shown us nothing but kindness and love where western women have run a 40 year hate campaign, now who do you think we are going to reward with the spoils of our hard work and future of life enjoyment huh? definitely not you!

08-30-2006 09:21 AM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

Anti_Feminist wrote:

My My My… aren’t we threatened by the words foreign bride . Nah. in fact your so scared of being replaced replaced? I honestly don’t care who you marry. that you have to hurl insults at the very mention of the idea. Their is nothing in that post about dominating women and you know it! The fact is foreign women make good life partners, which means solid emotional support what does that mean, exactly? and in what way do “foreign” women offer it differently from “western” women? strong core values, vague – everyone has their own set of values.  if by “core values” you mean biblical/traditional, then that’s not much different from what I said…”subservience” is included in there and fun filled lifestyle. what?  what’s that have to do with anything?  Where western woman mean scathing vicious entitlement princess that offer nothing and expects everything. Sweeping generalization = logical fallacy Foreign women have shown us nothing but kindness and love how so?  when?  where western women have run a 40 year hate campaign, now who do you think we are going to reward REWARD?  ‘scuse me while I spit my drink with the spoils of our hard work have you missed the discussion?  women have their own careers, now and future of life enjoyment huh? definitely not you! Yes, well…poor me, I guess.

08-30-2006 09:30 AM

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3rdworldwm
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3rdworldwm

“My My My… aren’t we threatened by the words foreign bride . in fact your so scared of being replaced that you have to hurl insults at the very mention of the idea. Their is nothing in that post about dominating women and you know it! The fact is foreign women make good life partners, which means solid emotional support strong core values, and fun filled lifestyle. Where western woman mean scathing vicious entitlement princess that offer nothing and expects everything. Foreign women have shown us nothing but kindness and love where western women have run a 40 year hate campaign, now who do you think we are going to reward with the spoils of our hard work and future of life enjoyment huh? definitely not you!”

Just a little reminder to you: make sure you keep your foreign bride in foreign, or they will become like me. 😉

Message Edited by 3rdworldwm on 08-30-2006 09:37 AM

08-30-2006 09:32 AM

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Cassius
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The marriage strike was a predictable reaction to the steps taken against men. The destruction of marriage is a feminist goal. Not that I mind.

08-30-2006 10:42 AM

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GenghisKhan
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I don’t understand that, myself, but if you watch Bridezillas you’ll see the women are far more interested in wearing the dress than they are in being with the man. The man, in many cases (on that show), is really just a necessary item to bring her to the altar.

And, um, do you know that 95% of men do the PROPOSING?

(Don’t tell me y’all are so weak-willed that you’re “manipulated” into asking. Almost every man I’ve met wants to get married, and furthermore, wants to have kids. Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that women are the only ones who want that stuff?)
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Exactly, That’s my point!!! Men do the proposing. We have that power of initial selection. And both men and women do want marriage, but this is the one arena where women are powerless until after the man chooses, because they need to wait till the man proposes to her. Only after this event does mutual selection take place when she accepts/rejects. THIS is why women are angry. Its because Noer has told men to eliminate a category of women from the selection process. Essentially they don’t get an opportunity to play. You see what I’m getting at here? Do you see why this would be so upsetting to these women? This initial power of selection in the male is why there are literally thousands of books, article, programs that advise women on how to get a guy to committ. And the fact that certain women are more obsessed with the idea of marriage and not necessarily for the man is even more support that men should choose wisely who they wish to marry. Which means, Noer’s article has paramount significance, because it advises us on this decision.

I challenge you to find and quote a response from a woman “acting pissed off at the suggestion that someone might not want to marry them.”
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This board is littered with hundreds of them. And its all a reaction to Noer’s article telling men to eliminate a certain class of woman from our decision making when it comes to marriage. Ranging from why career women are better than housewives, to men are insecure with a career woman, to insulting the men for picking a housewife, to arguing that men want a submissive slave to every other argument out there as to why they are supposedly better choices. And they all center around the same thing – trying to defend their place in a man’s marriage selection pool (although many women seem to see it as defending their life choices, but this is not what Noer’s article is about – he’s not attacking career women per se, he’s attacking them as marriage choices). Are you that dense that you can’t figure this out? or do you see the problem and are just trying to create a smoke screen?

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08-30-2006 10:55 AM

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DontMarryNoer
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zacharias wrote:
“Fact is, you all are running from hypotheticals, from imaginary women out to snatch you up.”

Wow! So all these women here acting pissed off at the suggestion that someone might not want to marry them are just “hypotheticals.”

They sure are a noisy bunch of “hypotheticals.”

I don’t think that is why they’re acting “pissed off”. In fact, I don’t think they are particularly pissed off. Anyway while I don’t want a family or to get married, I’m not very career-driven as I’d prefer to study the social sciences and to travel and do work in countries such as Cambodia; the thought of career in such a sense bores me.

But the article is ridiculous in how it makes men out to be helpless children and women out to be nothing but servers and accessories to men. That is why people responded and made fun of it; the whole thing was ironic. For such a giant like Forbes that needs to keep up with the times, it just seems silly.

The fact that people are using “Bridezillas” as some sort of example is even more silly.

About the “foreign bride” thing? People who travel abroad often marry foreigners – men and women, though women marrying foreign men isn’t much explored. If you travel to other countries, there is a good chance you marry somebody from there. I think that should be distinguished from what these types of guys with senses of entitlment mean. The thing is, it typically refers to “women from third-world/post-war/oppressive traditional societies” where survival for those women – or, the burden to care for their poor family – is the number one priority. I’ve been studying Cambodia for years and in turn many other nations. You should hear some of these guys who go there: absert fathers who blame all their problems on everybody else and decide that the fact they married an impovrished woman sometimes twice their junior “proves” that everything they did was right and aren’t responsible for anything that went wrong. They’ll publically announce how to manipulate them into thinking that when caught in bed with another woman it was her fault by playing dumb … but they better not do the same to them. It happens sometimes, though, the woman will go off with another man or steal his money and he just can’t fathom why the desperately poor woman would do that to the wonder that is him. Or, reality will set in and they’ll get mad when they have to send money to the woman’s family (which reflects the customs in that culture) or that the woman doesn’t learn English fast enough or that she’ll get angry when he goes out at night. Suddenly, those women are terrible too.

We can filter them out witht he so-called “marriage strike”, so thats a good thing. But it makes me want to create a huge banner for countries like Cambodia, the Ukraine, the Philippines, Thailand, etc., saying “I’m sorry you have to get our narrcissistic throw-backs!”

08-30-2006 11:54 AM

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GenghisKhan
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But the article is ridiculous in how it makes men out to be helpless children and women out to be nothing but servers and accessories to men.
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I would agree with this comment if it wasn’t for the thousands of books, articles, programs advising women on “life, love and relationships.” If one article advising men on marriage choices makes men look like helpless children, I’d hate to think what all those books, articles, etc. for women on “life, love, and relationships” make them look like.

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08-30-2006 12:00 PM

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PatriarchVerlch
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Actually the divorce rate in places where the women are dominated is 10%. So yeah, brainiac, you are very right about marry a woman who was raised with good morals, how to be a lady, and how to hold a family together.

Women in America tear their own family apart with their own hands. Think about the children!!!! They need their fathers. Women would rather be socialist and poor as a nation, than watch men be happy and successful.

The only place all men are equal is in the grave, equalitarianism has been a disaster, men and women are not interchangeable.

Divorce rate of 10% or divorce rate of 55%? Arguing like children with American women, or having a peaceful night of dinner and a movie with a women that values the man that is her first line of defense in a home invasion. Get real ladies.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 12:19 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

GenghisKhan wrote:
I don’t understand that, myself, but if you watch Bridezillas you’ll see the women are far more interested in wearing the dress than they are in being with the man. The man, in many cases (on that show), is really just a necessary item to bring her to the altar.

And, um, do you know that 95% of men do the PROPOSING?

(Don’t tell me y’all are so weak-willed that you’re “manipulated” into asking. Almost every man I’ve met wants to get married, and furthermore, wants to have kids. Where are you getting this ridiculous notion that women are the only ones who want that stuff?)
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Exactly, That’s my point!!! Men do the proposing. We have that power of initial selection. And both men and women do want marriage, but this is the one arena where women are powerless until after the man chooses, because they need to wait till the man proposes to her. Only after this event does mutual selection take place when she accepts/rejects. THIS is why women are angry. Its because Noer has told men to eliminate a category of women from the selection process.

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-30-2006 11:15 AM

Um, actually, women can ask if they want to.  I did.  I have no idea why so many wait around to be asked…I figure, if you want to marry someone, ask them.  *shrug*  But it’s not like they have to wait to be picked by you.  Most just like the idea of the big, grand gesture…romance, all that.

08-30-2006 12:46 PM

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DontMarryNoer
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This is just a derailing projection. It is what it is what it is no matter what else may have been written. I don’t know what marriage and family things for women say and, frankly, don’t care. And it has nothing to do with this.

Actually the divorce rate in places where the women are dominated is 10%. So yeah, brainiac, you are very right about marry a woman who was raised with good morals, how to be a lady, and how to hold a family together.

In many of the “places”, marriages are arranged and are a social institution that is economically necessary. You should check the life expectancy, birth-rate, literacy rate (especially for women), and other social-economic and health factors there. What happens tot he woman if she has an affair VS the man if he goes nightly to see a prostitute? How many women get HIV and/or AIDS from their husbands? How rampant is domestic violence? In places like the US, marriage is no longer necessary outside of being a personal choice. Unfortunately, many laws haven’t caught up.

Divorce rate of 10% or divorce rate of 55%?

The US foes not have a divorce rate of 55%. They get to this using flawed logic by counting the number of marriages in a year and the number of divorces. Unless you’re Eminem, the people who get married in a year aren’t necessarily the people who are getting a divorce. It is closer to 38%-45%. Which, means nothing, really, since more people are cohabitating anyway. Plus, the most divorces take place in the Bible Belt of America. Hardly the bastion of feminism.

Arguing like children with American women, or having a peaceful night of dinner and a movie with a women that values the man that is her first line of defense in a home invasion. Get real ladies.

Hey, argue like a child or get a woman who has been socialized to keep her mouth-shut lest it make her man unhappy. Do what you want. One less like you to deal with.

08-30-2006 01:30 PM

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leeraconteur
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Plus, the most divorces take place in the Bible Belt of America. Hardly the bastion of feminism.

I haven’t seen a woman or supporter post yet that appears knowledgable.

Are all your ‘facts’ based upon prejudice and bias?  They certainly seem so.

The most divorces in the U.S. take place in California, home of liberalism and feminism.  ~70% ratio of divorces to marriages, per year, averaged over 10 years.

08-30-2006 01:54 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

leeraconteur wrote:

The most divorces in the U.S. take place in California, home of liberalism and feminism.  ~70% ratio of divorces to marriages, per year, averaged over 10 years.

So it’s not, as many of you might argue, that YOU (the men) don’t want US (career women), but that WE don’t want YOU.

No wonder you’re all hyperventilating.

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08-30-2006 02:07 PM

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toadman
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Sure. We’re hyperventilating that 78% of those divorces are initiated by women. She smells the money trail and safety net at the end regardless of her financial condition.

08-30-2006 02:11 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

toadman wrote:
Sure. We’re hyperventilating that 78% of those divorces are initiated by women. She smells the money trail and safety net at the end regardless of her financial condition.

Nice work shifting any modicum of personal responsibility.  Much easier to say they’re divorcing you for your money than it is to buck up and admit to even partial cause for the demise of a marriage.

Yeah – ALL the women’s fault.  How convenient for you.

08-30-2006 02:32 PM

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toadman
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“Nice work shifting any modicum of personal responsibility.” You just answered your own question Missy. *golf claps*

08-30-2006 04:32 PM

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ftesyektsi
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ftesyektsi

toadman wrote:
“Nice work shifting any modicum of personal responsibility.” You just answered your own question Missy. *golf claps*

What question is that?

08-30-2006 04:46 PM

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DontMarryNoer
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The most divorces in the U.S. take place in California, home of liberalism and feminism.~70% ratio of divorces to marriages, per year, averaged over 10 years.

Once again, that counts how many people are married in a year and how many are divorced. Not which of those marriages end up in dovorce or how many over-all. Take a statistics class.

6.4 in Tennessee, 6.1 in Arkansas, 6.0 in Alabama and Oklahoma per-thousand.That ultra-Conservative, anti-feminist New York is at 3.0. Among the lowest.

The rate of divorces in the southern states are 50% above average. Its so bad, in fact, the Gov. in Oklahoma was trying to do something about it using religion.

ftesyektsi wrote:

Nice work shifting any modicum of personal responsibility.  Much easier to say they’re divorcing you for your money than it is to buck up and admit to even partial cause for the demise of a marriage.  Yeah – ALL the women’s fault.  How convenient for you.

Ahh, special pleading. I like that “logic”: when men leave or are not marrying, it is because women are this, that, and the other thing wrong. When women do it … women are still this, that, and the other thing wrong.

Yup, its eeeeeverybody else’s fault. So glad these Noer-groupies don’t represent all men.

08-30-2006 05:00 PM

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PatriarchVerlch
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In many of the “places”, marriages are arranged and are a social institution that is economically necessary. You should check the life expectancy, birth-rate, literacy rate (especially for women), and other social-economic and health factors there. What happens tot he woman if she has an affair VS the man if he goes nightly to see a prostitute? How many women get HIV and/or AIDS from their husbands? How rampant is domestic violence? In places like the US, marriage is no longer necessary outside of being a personal choice. Unfortunately, many laws haven’t caught up.

Actually arranged marriages do have a low amount of divorce rate’s.

I’ve got 100k saved up for my son to get a marriage with. I want the money back if the wife isn’t a model wife. I want my son to know what he is getting, rather than rolling the dice.

Your rambling out silly arguments. In America there are gay men than contract AIDS and give it to their wives. Or herpes.

I know of one women who cheated on her husband with a black man, and gave him herpes. Both sexes, anywhere do stupid things.

For men we want a peaceful marriage. Therefore to get one, is a lot of looking in various places. You would think women would be more accommodating since their eggs do not stick around forever.

Why do women trade a stable marriage for one night stands is beyond me. Study after study shows women are happiest married, they live longer, so do the men, and are way happier than their single feminist counterparts with no man to share life’s experiences with.

I think you need to read this website.

http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Library/Amneus/garbage/index.html

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 05:55 PM

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DontMarryNoer
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DontMarryNoer

Actually arranged marriages do have a low amount of divorce rate’s

I know that. My point was the over-whelming social control. That doesn’t exist in a vacuum. A divorce does not mean failure and marriage does not mean happiness or choice.

I’ve got 100k saved up for my son to get a marriage with. I want the money back if the wife isn’t a model wife. I want my son to know what he is getting, rather than rolling the dice.

Maybe you should have more faith in him to find a woman he feels suits him and that he feels he suits. Or a man (if we ever decide to allow it finally). Or maybe he won’t want to get married. Or not. Doesn’t matter.

Your rambling out silly arguments. In America there are gay men than contract AIDS and give it to their wives. Or herpes.

Once again, you’re missing the point. The women are punished and shamed for infidelity. The men can see prostitutes as they choose. The women, already with less of an education compared to her husband and lacking health-care, will on top of all this get AIDS. Who knows what happens to the kids afterwards. Once more, marriage and low-divorce rates do not amount to sucess, health, and happiness. Things should be examined on their own terms.

For men we want a peaceful marriage. Therefore to get one, is a lot of looking in various places. You would think women would be more accommodating since their eggs do not stick around forever.

I don’t think you’re spokesperson for men anymore than I am for women. I know men who don’t want to get married, I know men who do. I know men, like me, who say it is obsolete in this society as a socio-economic choice and should just be accepted as a personal one. Personally, I don’t want children. Some men don’t want children either, some understand that the health of their sperm produced is reduced as they’re older and older and want one NOW! He is just going to have to find somebody else. *shrug* Go ahead. Just not going to be me or women who believe like me. I’m sure they’re more concerned with finding somebody who shares their world-view and goals.

Why do women trade a stable marriage for one night stands is beyond me. Study after study shows women are happiest married, they live longer, so do the men, and are way happier than their single feminist counterparts with no man to share life’s experiences with.

Your opinion or understanding, or mine for that matter, isn’t important. Though I don’t know why you speak in a dichotomy, that just because you don’t want marriage it means you go through life with one-night stands. It may just mean, you know, you don’t get married. Anybody with social solidarily will have a longer lifespan and be less likely to commit suicide.

I’ve seen that website before.

08-30-2006 06:17 PM

Re: Marriage Strike! Marriage Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike!
khankrumthebulg
Regular Contributor
khankrumthebulg
What are Traditional Women? Two words Realistic and Reasonable. American Women are not. They feed themselves and are fed an endless diet of self reenforcing delusions of their worth, and what they are entitled to. This was not always the case. I have known US Women prior to Feminism and our Debased culture who were some of the finest human beings it has been my honor to know. They were strong, yet sweet and kind. Tough but gentle and loved Men. Did not see us as their Oppressors, understood how to make Men happy. Did not consume huge quantities of Anti-Depressants and yet coped with real hardships. Made Meals from Scratch, sent off Sons to war and dealt with a Visit from the Chaplain.

My Grandmother lost two of her Sons in WW2. One whose body was never recovered left a Pregnant wife and never saw his son. She was not bitter but was sweet and kind. Grandma Khan made the best meals from scratch and could teach Betty Crocker a thing or two. My Ex wife’s Grandmother frequently said she wanted to die and be with her husband Robert. She loved him more than life itself. They respected and cared for each other over 60 years and raised 6 children. With our SUVs, Instant Dinners, Huge TVs, Video Games our Families are crap. Our Marriages are barren of love and affection.

Women no longer understand Men. Men openly refuse to Marry. And don’t want American Women for wives. I know of no less than 6 Marriages to Foreign Women over 2 decades in duration, successful and happy. And if you think Foreign Women are door mats, try cheating on a Latina with Sharp instruments around. You are a Bigot and a Racist.

08-30-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Marriage Strike! Marriage Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike!
PatriarchVerlch
Regular Contributor
PatriarchVerlch

Once again, you’re missing the point. The women are punished and shamed for infidelity. The men can see prostitutes as they choose. The women, already with less of an education compared to her husband and lacking health-care, will on top of all this get AIDS. Who knows what happens to the kids afterwards. Once more, marriage and low-divorce rates do not amount to sucess, health, and happiness. Things should be examined on their own terms.

The family unit hinges on female chastity. The confidence that a man will not be raising another man’s seed. A marriage can survive a man knocking up a woman in a foreign land. Women raising different seeds by different men and expecting prince charming to ride valiantly out into the far distance to conquer a foreign land, is remote. His little world has been shattered, his loyalty to family squandered.

In this age of all things equal, I wouldn’t expect you to grasp this notion.

The first thing a male lion does when he conquers another males lionesses, is he kills all the male cubs that are not his. Then he goes about his business, waiting for the day he gets toppeled.

Men shouldn’t have to rear children they did not donate one of the 10 trillion sperm that we men produce in a life time.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

08-30-2006 08:49 PM

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