The real reason why career women are outraged


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The real reason why career women are outraged
GenghisKhan
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GenghisKhan
I posted this on another thread but felt it should be singled out.

FACT: men select who we ask to marry. If I don’t want to choose you, I can choose another woman. Women can’t do that (though they think they can) because they have to be asked, which is why they put so much pressure on men to commit and marry. Noer’s article simply says to men, don’t ask the career girl to marry you. This is what is driving career women up a wall because now despite how much pressure they put on us this article predisposes us with the idea to eliminate the career woman completely. Essentially, She loses her opportunity before getting a chance to play. All the arguments by career women are just pathetic attempts to try and get this opportunity back: “We are independant, we are educated, men are insecure, men feel threatened by a career woman, go marry a submissive housewife” The problem is these qualities are not only of no use to men who marry to create a family (which is the only logical reason for a man to marry under our current social & legal system), but such assertions are voiced by many women as demands/insults nullifying/attempting to curb our right to choose who to marry. Here’s a hint, If career women want us to propose to them, bring something to the table that is beneficial to us and to raising a family. And doing this with some courtesy will go a long way in getting us to hear you out. Maybe then will you provide us with a better case to choose you.

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 12:39 PM

08-29-2006 12:32 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
abarnstall
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abarnstall

A single article has had that much affect on your worldview and decisions that you will make for your life? Wow.

08-29-2006 12:37 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
warbaby
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warbaby

I think this single article was merely a validation of what thousands, if not millions, of men already think. And now they know they’re not alone. Looks like you strong, independent career women are on your own. Good luck with that. You might want to start clipping coupons for cat food.

08-29-2006 12:43 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
GenghisKhan
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GenghisKhan

abarnstall wrote:
A single article has had that much affect on your worldview and decisions that you will make for your life? Wow.

Oh I don’t think so, it sounds logical and makes sense to me. To think some women have made worldview and life decisions for much more trivial reasons. My girlfriend wants to pack up and move to Charlotte, NC one day because its “cute” down there.

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 12:48 AM

08-29-2006 12:46 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
abarnstall
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abarnstall

Ummm . . . did my boyfriend call you and tell you to break up with me on this message board? That was pretty insensitive after a three year relationship and surprising, since I just talked to him 15 minutes ago on the phone. And I’m allergic to cats, but thanks for your concern with my finances. Since, at age 28, I make over $100k/year, I don’t think coupons will be necessary. Have a nice night, Warbaby!

08-29-2006 12:47 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
abarnstall
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abarnstall

GK – If you think your girlfriend makes frivolous decisions, break up with her. Date someone you respect.

08-29-2006 12:48 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
warbaby
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warbaby

Huh. You have a boyfriend? I have a husband – for 18 years. Sorry about the cat thing. Of course, if your boyfriend is a mangina, you may just keep him forever. If that’s what you want. Whatever floats your boat.

08-29-2006 12:51 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
kovaos
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kovaos

Beautiful article.

08-29-2006 12:52 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
careerwomantobe
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careerwomantobe

What about the idea of marriage as a partnership–the majority of these posts seem to view marriage as something that men to do or do for women. Or it is viewed as something that women rope men into.

08-29-2006 12:55 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
warbaby
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warbaby

Marriage IS a partnership. But it can’t be that way if one partner is married to the career.

08-29-2006 12:57 AM

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Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet
Wonderful summary GhengisKhan. Exactly.

With all the privileges and entitlements that feminism has given the modern woman and turned her into a self-centred narcissist, she cannot EVER force by law the love or respect of a man.

Number ONE(1) Unintended Consequence of feminism: NOW MEN DON’T WANT YOU.

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

08-29-2006 12:58 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
abarnstall
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abarnstall

Warbaby – Well, my boyfriend respects me and likes that I have my own life and values my opinion and the fact that I have an education and a career, so I guess if that makes him a “mangina” then so be it. I value the same things in him. Does that make me a wompenis? Am I somehow less of a woman for respecting my boyfriend, since he is somehow less of a man for respecting me? Just trying to clear this up.

08-29-2006 12:59 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
GenghisKhan
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GenghisKhan

abarnstall wrote:
GK – If you think your girlfriend makes frivolous decisions, break up with her. Date someone you respect.

I do respect her. I just call things as I see them, not suger coat my thoughts in an attempt to not get her mad at me. Her reasons for wanting to move to NC are trivial at best, I have even told this to her face. Ironically, this frankness is one factor that attracts her to me, so she says.

08-29-2006 01:00 AM

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abarnstall
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abarnstall

GK – That’s good. Sounds like you’ve got a nice, reasonable woman. There are more like her out there than you seem to believe.

08-29-2006 01:02 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
careerwomantobe
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careerwomantobe

“Marriage IS a partnership. But it can’t be that way if one partner is married to the career.”

That argument runs both ways…that means that the husband can’t be married to his career either…It is not a male/ female thing…it is a relationship issue, regardless of who the party “married to their career” is.

08-29-2006 01:04 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
warbaby
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warbaby

Very true. Hence why men shouldn’t marry a career woman if they want a family.

See, there are family women with careers.

And career women with families.

Notice where the emphasis lies.

08-29-2006 01:07 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
careerwomantobe
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careerwomantobe

That’s just semantics.

08-29-2006 01:09 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
abarnstall
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abarnstall

careerwomantobe – Is it just me or does Warbaby seem to be missing the point of your post entirely?

08-29-2006 01:09 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
warbaby
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warbaby

No, it’s priorities.

08-29-2006 01:22 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
radiator
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radiator

Actually, it sounds like she likes a big man to make decisions for her and you like it that way because if you are with an airhead then you feel like a big man. You are both seeking in each other a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have to concur that you don’t respect her, but why would you want to? You’ve made it clear that respect is not what’s important to you in a romantic relationship.

08-29-2006 05:38 AM

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Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor

Marriage IS a partnership.

This is a common misperception.

The disproof comes from a famous court case where a couple tried to gain certain tax advantages by claiming to be a partnership, rather than a married couple. The court threw the idea out.

Family Law is an entirely separate body of law from Partnership Law. People disregard this fundamental fact at their own perile.

Message Edited by MartianBachelor on 08-29-2006 06:33 AM

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08-29-2006 08:30 AM

Re: The real reason why career women are outraged
GenghisKhan
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GenghisKhan

radiator wrote:
Actually, it sounds like she likes a big man to make decisions for her and you like it that way because if you are with an airhead then you feel like a big man. You are both seeking in each other a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have to concur that you don’t respect her, but why would you want to? You’ve made it clear that respect is not what’s important to you in a romantic relationship.

Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions. So, I don’t respect my girlfriend because I spoke up and challenged her ideas? I think your comments are a great reflection of the sentiment many women feel today. That they are always right and if a man says anything other than “ok, honey”, it means he doesn’t respect her. Maybe this is why there is so much resentment by career women against Noer’s article. God forbid a man is actually given a seed of thought that makes him question her role in his life and suddenly career women all over are up in arms demanding that they are marriage worthy and this is the only manner in which men should view them. I call people out, man or woman, when they say/do something that I think is unreasonable. I do it because that’s how I was raised, not because I want to feel like a big man. I don’t bully my girlfriend, I challenge her much the same way she does to me. And I don’t think she would appreciate being called an airhead.

Message Edited by GenghisKhan on 08-29-2006 10:38 AM

08-29-2006 10:36 AM

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