Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.


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Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
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I would question why Forbes would have to publish a second article just to appease women. To start, the article talks about a subject which is real and points out some facts? That is all it does, however Forbes printed out an other article by that ugly woman. She intentionally offends men because of an article written about marriage.

Forbes would allow women to offend men and it is okay, but men cannot write that women are dogs in any article; it simply would not be published. However, they did allow and it is published beside the marriage article apiece written by the female columnist offending men.

Forbes is just like all other media outlets, they fear all the complaints from women. So they all of the sudden decide to publish an offensive article against all men. Moreover, this is quiet interesting, given that men are the foundation for Forbes business model. Most people who read or use Forbes resources and purchase subscriptions to finance their business are “men”.

Just pointing out the facts, read both articles, the one written by the man simply states facts and does not post anything offensive. Then read the female article and it calls men dogs, lazy and all other sorts of offensive quotes. Why cannot women be socially responsible and not engage in insults and name calling simply because they read something without the feminist goody feel that they are so accustomed too? This is the real world right here, right now, get over it, it is just an article with facts.

Forbes, if you value the people who make your business possible, why do you offend us with a “stupid and offensive” article written by a woman who hates men?

09-02-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
Termi0n
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Termi0n

It was wrong but it served to show people the misandry and the unfair bias in the media (if they didnt already). Hopefully waking more people up in the process.

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

09-02-2006 08:20 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
tomshh
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tomshh

Forbes has helped in the Men’s movement, so I can give them credit.

But the fact they bend over so far backwards, to appease the inferior minded and body female crowd = they have lost my financial support.

Figure it out Forbes, and you are sitting on a gold mine of men, with a large amount of cash, who will gladly support you.

09-03-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
Pete
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Pete
Remember that feminism is still very influential and powerful in American life at the moment; you can’t just attack women and not consider what that will do to your bottom line, your reputation, or even your personal/family life. Handing a sop over to women was simply rational decision making on the part of Forbes.

Also remember that Forbes is the very first mainstream outlet (and so far, only one) that has ripped the lid off this whole issue. Taking an unprecedented risk they way Forbes has requires some self-protective CYA precautions.

09-03-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
DontMarryNoer
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DontMarryNoer

Following your own logic, you can say you’d rather Forbes offend women but not men.

Look, they put up and point-counterpoint. As far as I’m concerned, they could have left the thing up. But that is bad business.

09-03-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
Termi0n
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Termi0n

DontMarryNoer wrote:
Following your own logic, you can say you’d rather Forbes offend women but not men.

Look, they put up and point-counterpoint. As far as I’m concerned, they could have left the thing up. But that is bad business.

If the truth offends you, thats not their problem. Unless of course it affects their bottom line. Though I say F their bottom line.

Forbes wasnt out to piss women off. Sorry, statistics show career girls suck at marriage. Thats too bad. Suck it up.

If statistics showed career men were bad at marriage. We wouldnt be having this kind of backlash. Hell, maybe they are! That doesnt offend me as a man. I’d tell them the same thing I’ll tell you. If it gets in the way of your responsibility to be a good parent/spouse you shouldnt be doing it. Those are the consequences of your actions.

Thats equality. Deal with it.

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

09-03-2006 10:30 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
Right On! you guys.

But I do sympathize with the conundrum they were in: will a big public controversy provide free advertising and ultimately increase sales, or lead to stigmatization and decrease them? Even though they know their demographics way better than we do, I’d doubt their detailed knowledge in that area gave them much basis to act on. So they took some sort of fuzzy middle path and tossed the fembots a bone, though I notice we’re not discussing that other opinion piece much, probably because it’s so easily dismissed and seen for what it is (a lame attempt at damage control). So I lean toward the stigmatization hypothesis. Time will tell if it’s correct.

The fundamental problem is everyone is super-sensitive to female complaints. I know there are many on here who don’t buy evolutionary thinking, but there’s a good explanation which comes out of it for why we’re all naturally feminicentric: in the long clan/tribal stone age era in which we evolved, female survival was the key to human survival because they’re the reproductive bottle-neck; a clan or tribe could lose all but a few of its men and still make a come-back reproductively, but if it lost its women it was done for. This is why we’re naturally protective of women and why men are basicaly expendable, why we pay attention to female complaints and ignore male complaints.

Of course this is no longer functional. We don’t live in the stone age anymore, but we’re still stuck with its legacy biologically, not that we’re bound by it. If anything, the situation is reversed now. We don’t really need female reproduction all that much anymore to survive; if anything that’s causing problems because it works so well (I’m thinking of over-population of environmental limits). Instead we now have a greater need for typically male characteristics: drive and energy, creativity and inventiveness, the willingness to take risks and sacrifice, and our many problem-solving skills. (I’m sure I’ve left out a few.) One thing we can expect out of this is to hear even more complaints out of women as they lose their reason for being favored, and yet continue to try and use what’s worked for them for eons. They’re the Neanderthals now.

But we can’t evolve fast enough to keep up with the change in circumstances because it’s all happened so fast — basically since the industrial revolution started about two hundred years age. And it certainly doesn’t help that those of us who see the shift that needs to take place toward valuing males more are seen as the ones who are the Neanderthals, the ones who don’t “get it” and won’t “get with the program”. But as we’ve seen, such typically feminine ploys no longer play so well with many of us because part of male nature is to see the bigger picture. Hey, that’s part of being protective of women and our kids, our evolved trait of looking out for the interests of everyone.

Even if you use a different language, I think most of the guys here will basically agree with this take on where we are in the Big Picture.

The blow-up over the article has illuminated these sorts of things, so even if the details aren’t perfect, some good may come out of it.

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

09-04-2006 12:22 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
toadman
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toadman

Remember the title(s) of the columns?
Don’t marry Career Women vs. Don’t marry Lazy Men?

One was statistical proof(provided by women) vs. a personal character attack rebuttal based on emotion. The original article(even after red-penned) still stands on it’s own merits.  Internally Forbes male staffing knows the arguement is valid but are shackled by politically correctness regardless of statistical validation.

Is “Working Woman” still in publication btw?

09-05-2006 02:17 PM

Re: Double standard by forbes – offend men to appease women.
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
Yup. There’s also a “Working Mothers” mag…

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

09-06-2006 06:21 AM

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