Educational Equality…..or not??


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Educational Equality…..or not??
merrylaff
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This is the beginning of an article from a magazine that I currently don’t subscribe to…..so I can’t finish reading it….LOL – but anyway…..if you want to finish it the website is worldmag.com

Before I paste it on here….I saw this happening and am glad my son is now safely through the educational system…..but unless parents (that include moms!!!) wake up and take a look around, this is going to get worse and women will ultimately suffer for it. I know that in my school district….which is actually in the top 70 nationwide in size….the VAST majority of valedictorians and salutatorians were female. Is this necessarily bad? No, but the question needs to be asked….why? I wonder if anyone has the statistics on the % of valedictorians in private/parochial schools in terms of gender……

Anyway – read and enjoy. And by the way – there is one individual on here that I simply don’t respond to or even read his comments…..but the rest of you – I would love to hear your thoughts….

“This month American kids loaded their backpacks and marched off to school, generally more eager the younger they are. By high school cynicism and detachment have set in, particularly—if dropout statistics are any indication—among boys.

Educators are becoming alarmed. Male attendance on campus has declined every year, to the point where some colleges are considering a form of affirmative action to bring up their male enrollment. Social commentators worry about disaffected young men, conservatives wonder where the future leaders are, and young women find the mating pool decreased (whether or not they will admit to looking).

This is an about-face from 15 years ago, when the hand-wringing was over the other sex. “Studies” published by the American Association of University Women and feminist authors like Carol Gilligan insisted that girls were “systematically shortchanged” by the educational system, with its bias toward rationalism and competition. Buzz-books, such as Reviving Ophelia by Mary Pipher, lamented that girls were marked for oblivion by the time they reached junior high: “Just as planes and ships disappear mysteriously in the Bermuda Triangle, so do the selves of girls go down in droves.”

09-18-2006 10:59 AM

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tellafriend
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tellafriend

merrylaff wrote:

Anyway – read and enjoy. And by the way – there is one individual on here that I simply don’t respond to or even read his comments…..but the rest of you – I would love to hear your thoughts….

Here we have a classic example of female idiocy.

Let me translate this dumb biitch into English:

“I’m ignoring you, so I’m not going to keep talking about you in every other sentence. Because I’m ignoring you. So I NEED to let you know that because I a complete moron who is so validation-based that if I didn’t tell you, it would eat away at me inside. I need to feel morally superior to you because I need to justify my female idiocy just like feminists have a dire need to justify their ridiculous hypocrisy. My selective hearing gene along with my elitist indignation filter doesn’t allow me to listen to male common sense and reasoning because this would affect my cartoonishly gigantic self-esteem shrine. My self-esteem is the throne of my existence. Regardless of how stupid I sound, how stupid I prove to be, how utter ignorant and childish I am in my approach to the discernment of the truth, MY SELF-ESTEEM IS THE END ALL, BE ALL, OF THE TIME SPACE CONTINUM.

I AM PITIFUL, CHILDISH, IRRATIONAL, TANTRUM-THROWING SELF-ESTEEM.

HEAR ME ROAR!”
..is it any wonder that female education is a waste of time. One look at this dumb biitch proves that point beyond a shadow of a doubt.

09-18-2006 01:07 PM

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leeraconteur
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I know that in my school district….which is actually in the top 70 nationwide in size….the VAST majority of valedictorians and salutatorians were female. Is this necessarily bad? No, but the question needs to be asked….why?

In 1990 when “the educational fate of girls was hanging in the balance”, and boys were the vast majority of valedictorians and salutorians, those two facts were provided as proof that education was failing girls and that something was wrong and needed correction.

Now, in 2006, when girls are the vast majority of valedictorians and salutorians, this is accepted as something that is not “necessarily bad”.

This is clear duplicity, sexism and female superiority.

These three characteristics are hallmarks of Marxist-based Gender Feminism.

09-18-2006 02:21 PM

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merrylaff
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Point well taken.

Ok – if given the premise that a clear majority constitutes a problem with the educational system, then you are definitely correct. Because I cannot provide statistics for the past few years, I did not know if this was an anomaly or if it was the usual. Therefore, I cannot statistically say that this is bad. On the other hand, I cannot say it is good either. If the trend continues then something would need to be examined –

You are kind of preaching to the choir – remember, I think there is a problem.

09-18-2006 02:27 PM

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With test-based curriculae sweeping the nation, class rooms have become more intense, more focused, and more geared away from the type of personalities that are common in boys.

Boys are indeed different from girls in learning styles (most, not all – cavaet for the purveyers of women’s logic). Girls are much better at sitting quietly and being focused on one task for longer periods of time. Boys tend to prefer action and movement and easily lose focus in the classes where rote learning must be accomplished in order to pass the myriad of standardized tests that are heaped on school systems.

This may be a case of the feminized class room and the No Child Left Behind act (all that standardized testing) meeting in an educational crossroads where boys are marginalized and girls have the upper hand.

Politics not withstanding, the class room must account for the learning styles of boys.

09-18-2006 02:56 PM

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I don’t know that there’s a problem either way. In most cases, being valedictorian or salutatorian is based on GPA, so unless boys or girls are unfairly being barred from AP or honors classes that provide GPA boosts, it basically comes down to what kid (boy or girl) at any given school has worked the hardest. I don’t really know why the gender dynamics have changed in just 16 years, but I’m sure it’ll go back and forth – some years more female valedictorians, some years male. I can’t read the rest of the article either, though.

I don’t know that girls are being shortchanged in school at this point, but I went to an all-girls high school – in the midst of this transformation of sorts, I guess (1994-1998). The girls who were valedictorian and salutatorian, though, were basically just the ones who had just consistently scored the highest on tests and taken many AP and honors courses.

The bigger academic push from girls, though, might have something to do with the cutthroat college acceptance environment now. Average just doesn’t cut it anymore.

09-18-2006 03:04 PM

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tellafriend
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Let’s not be ridiculous here.

It’s called the QUOTA SYSTEM.

Women need to FEEL smart otherwise their fragile self-esteem crumbles. So schools take artificial steps to reinforce the myth of female intelligence. No matter how many ridiculous sitcoms out there proclaim it and bully men into passively accepting it, no matter how many silly movie mischaracterizations about men are perpetuated, no matter how many “Girls rule!” t-shirts are worn in public, we all KNOW FOR A FACT that men are smarter than women. This forum should have hammered home that point by now if there was ever any question.

09-18-2006 03:46 PM

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Merrylaff, you are simply seeing the progression of feminism, 2nd or 3rd generation. It’s like a disease that spreads and grows, infecting more and more of the society. Feminist ideology will not be satisfied until society matches feminist utopia where men are relegated to being only good for “lifting heavy stuff” as said by one of the feminist Judd sisters (the fat one). Feminist ideology is not about “equality”, it’s about misandry. Feminist ideology will not be satisfied until 100% of divorces are filed by the wife (instead of the current 70%), until 100% of college students are female (instead of the current 63%), until 100% of children in America go to sleep at night without their bilogical father in the household (instead of the current 66%), etc., etc.. After all these and other goals are accomplished, then the feminist utopia can be realized where lesbianism is the order of the day, because all attractive masculine features that had attracted women to men in the past will be eradicated, thus any woman in this feminist utopia who is still attracted to a man, must be in need of psychological help or further feminist ideology indoctrination. Many of the elite feminists today are lesbians, and they are going to shove their feminist ideologies down the throats of all women whether they like it or not, that’s what fascists do.

09-18-2006 08:31 PM

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Halladay
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Halladay
first of all,

school was very BORING. can you say.. keep me awake with jolt cola ?
who wants to sit reading poetry and getting all ga-ga about it when i’m not going to write it or read it in my adult life ??

and since men are evil in our society, fatherless homes aren’t helping to discipline boys. there’s less father figure to guide boys these days.

plus, the educational system is now feminized. instead of engaging boys in subjects they may like, the educational system would rather drug them into submission.

of course you don’t mind if boys are torpedoed into drugged oblivion because you aren’t a boy.

09-18-2006 10:10 PM

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Happy_Bullet
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I have no opinion on the current education system apart from confirming that the current education system holds no interest for boys.

Anyone interested in a real education for boys has two options:

1. The Internet. I learned more here that in 15 years of schooling. All of the skills I currently use in my job, and that I used to get through college with minimal attendance I learned from the Internet. I still use the Internet daily to learn.

2. Computer games. I was talking with a friend about this last night. What is the best way to educate men to not D.U.I.? Get them drunk and have them try to play Grand Theft Auto, or Gran Turismo. Trust me you think you can do it easy, but the car is smashed up before you know it. Nothing like thinking “if that was real life it looks like the two halves of my body would be in two different locations” to educate.

Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory has a coop mode where you must cooperate to pass missions. It’s like being in an intimate relationship or something. Totally gay feelings all round if there wasn’t killing involved. Anyway, I reckon it teaches relationship skills.

I’ve learned history from a game called Civilisation. Not all that useful on its own, but when I saw other things I might be interested in, at least I had the background to not get confused and see that it might be interesting.

Also I knew a guy from Mauritius who learned English primarily from listening to rap music. That got a little difficult at times. His written English skills were minimal though.

I’m not actually being funny in this post, but until the education system gets back on track I honestly believe they are the best options.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 09-19-2006 02:42 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-19-2006 12:03 AM

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dumbbroad
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haha. well if computer games and random internet information are the “standards” by which women will be compared, it appears as though it might be quite easy to “deal with it”

09-19-2006 09:57 AM

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Message Edited by reclaff on 07-30-2007 04:03 PM

09-19-2006 01:21 PM

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dumbbroad
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so what academic crises for boys are you concerned about?

09-19-2006 01:37 PM

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tellafriend
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tellafriend

dumbbroad wrote:

so what academic crises for boys are you concerned about?

I’m concerned about a new generation of boys being exposed to idiot women like you and contracting the feminist virus.

09-19-2006 01:49 PM

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dumbbroad
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“I’m concerned about a new generation of boys being exposed to idiot women like you and contracting the feminist virus.”

Ok, well after they get their cootie shots, then what are you concerned about?

09-19-2006 01:57 PM

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Message Edited by reclaff on 07-30-2007 04:04 PM

09-19-2006 02:25 PM

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dumbbroad
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(The first poster couldn’t include the whole article, so I just wanted to know what you were referring to specifically so I could comment)

I think the last sentence is probably most telling. “Girls get A’s and B’s on their report cards, she tells him, but that doesn’t mean boys can’t do it, too.”

And I’d absolutely agree. Boys and girls both deserve the opportunity to flourish in school. There has been a lot of emphasis since the 70’s on making sure girls succeed in academics, to the betterment of society, I think. But I’d agree that you can’t just leave boys behind in the dust if they appear to be lagging.

The schools in this article seem to be trying different approaches that might work. I think there might be something to be said for separating boys and girls in the classroom since boys and girls respond to different methods. I went to an all girls high school and the classroom experience was a bit less chaotic than my lower school co-ed experience.

I think perhaps some anti-feminists have latched on to rhetoric from early on in the movement that was perhaps a bit shrill and outlandish and likely doesn’t apply to many women who consider themselves feminists today (your “let the boys be second for a change” comment). But I still respect those women for at least kicking off a dialogue on the subject that indeed helped girls have more of a fighting chance (as evidenced by the article). Sometimes you have to take an extreme approach at the outset to reach a more balanced ending. I’d refer back to my Black Panther example from a posting awhile back. I might not necessarily agree with the tactics they took or all the things they said in relation to the civil rights movement, but I respect them for attempting to do something about inequality for blacks.

09-19-2006 03:12 PM

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Message Edited by reclaff on 07-30-2007 04:05 PM

09-19-2006 03:22 PM

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tellafriend
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tellafriend

dumbbroad wrote:
“I’m concerned about a new generation of boys being exposed to idiot women like you and contracting the feminist virus.”

Ok, well after they get their cootie shots, then what are you concerned about?

Well they haven’t yet invented a vaccine against idiocy otherwise young impressionable boys would have a little window of hope. Idiot women like you will no doubt indoctrinate and shame them into going along with the feminazi program in the guise of “enlightenment” and “tolerance.”

I’m worried about idiot women assuming they are leveling the playing field when in fact they are simply advocating feminazi political interests and ultimately wrestling for control of all men. If rape is supposedly about control, then females are the real rapists.

I’m worried about feminazis teaching boys to become whining biitches and adopt the classic victim role mentality.

I’m worried about boys being bombarded with feminazi hate literature that teaches men to be ashamed of their sexuality and to do all things according to a woman’s waffling incoherent schedule.

I’m worried about future generations of boys not learning how to be real men and take a dominate leading role in a relationship, thus creating future generations of rapists, pedophiles, etc.–men who are incapable of meeting their sexual needs in a normal way as a result of feminism’s sexual tyranny and sexual oppression.

I’m worried about young boys stretching their own proverbial necks in the name of chivalry, only to be handed back their own heads on the guillotine of “equality”.

I’m worried about young boys having to endure a hypocritically entrenched feminist regime where misandry is enforced by law.

Other than that, no, I’m not too worried about their future.

09-19-2006 03:32 PM

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Message Edited by reclaff on 07-30-2007 04:05 PM

09-19-2006 04:22 PM

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Another reason is men simply cannot afford to be in rooms with students of any age, whether male or female, alone or in class. One accusation of misappropriate behavior whether valid or not will destroy his career. Similar to marriage, eh? The cackling women in the teacher’s lounge would have a field day with him at minimum. Gay men are much more approved in teaching than straight male role models nowadays.  With exceptions the few male teachers left teach shop, the sciences and coach sports.

09-19-2006 04:54 PM

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merrylaff
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Reclaff – nicely put!

Dumbroad – I cannot agree with you more on the separate schooling idea. I personally think all middle schools (basically grades 6-9) should be gender separated. It is during the middle school years that girls turn on their cattiest selves ( and yes, I have daughters and am a female so I can say that from experience) and generally speaking that cattiness has something to do with liking boys, disliking boys or disliking other girls who like certain boys, etc. Boys are beginning to grow into their hormones and that kind of nastiness throws a zinger at them. They need to develop within a confine of masculinity and girls would actually do better as they would have a lot less to be nasty about. They also are growing into their hormones and they wouldn’t be so obsessed about what such and such a boy thinks of them. It seems to me that middle school is when a kid’s study habits are fixed.
Thoughts?

09-19-2006 05:09 PM

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dumbbroad
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as a graduate of an all girls high school, i’d say that cattiness between girls exists whether there are boys present or not, but not having them in the classroom probably helped a bit. when we were in class, we focused on work and left the cattiness to after school or during lunch

09-19-2006 05:16 PM

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MartianBachelor
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“….the VAST majority of valedictorians and salutatorians were female. … but the question needs to be asked….why?”

Because girls/women are better at conforming and being subordinate to others.

Read this provocative essay by NY State Teacher of the Year John Taylor Gatto, and I think you’ll see what I’m getting at. You’ll have to keep your question in mind while doing so since the sex of the kids is not part of what he’s addressing about the overall system.

Mr. Gatto’s point of view makes me think more male teachers in school will make a marginal difference at best. It’s almost better that men aren’t there serving as bad examples of a sort to the boys, you know?

I’m w/Happy: an education is free, it’s schools that cost money.

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09-19-2006 07:21 PM

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tellafriend
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reclaff wrote:
tellafriend,  I understand what you are saying, and delivered as usual in your inimitable style.

But please understand, too, we men must shoulder our share of the blame for the boy crisis in education.

Yes, no doubt, these feminazis could not have gotten into power without the help of emasculated (read: pussified) “men” who have hijacked the legal system and refashioned it into the DeVry Institute of Crocodile Tears. But it’s like any other destructive lifestyle that is self-perpetuating via it’s own snowballing momentum. Women raise pussified men who in turn enforce and reinforce the feminist dogma to other young men.

No doubt, men were asleep at the helm when they should have been vigilantly keeping their biitches in check. To risk letting a child steer is to risk the livelyhood of one’s destination.

Simply put, we need more men to decide upon teaching as a career.

It’s going to require a little more than that. We need a man (at this point I’ll settle for the Antichrist himself, at least he’s a man) in power to realign the ship and put it back on course. It doesn’t do any good to work hard without working smart. All the male teachers in the world won’t be able to set the policy or standards for what and how they’re allowed to teach if the feminazi dogma still monopolizes the seats of power in government and is allowed to set precedent, policy and enforce it through legal strangulation of a man’s rights.

So we need to start much higher up on the food chain. A grassroots campaign only works if the opposition doesn’t already own a political lawn mower.

Our boys in elementary and high schools are crying out for male role models to serve as their teachers, their coaches, and their mentors.  Men simply have not entered the teaching profession in sufficient numbers and our boys are daily suffering from a single gender perspective as a result.

Forget about our boys, our young men and career colleagues are in need of a testosterone shot. They are functionally emasculated. I don’t want young boys being infected with the disease of feminism and the cycle simply being perpetuated. If the male role models don’t know what it’s like to be men, to take charge, to lead, to keep females in their place, then what good will they be as role models. They may as well be super models.

We need men who are not afraid to announce the truth, who are not afraid to fight for the truth. Let’s not beat around the bush– women are INFERIOR to men in function, NOT in worth, but DEFINITELY in function. Men need to recognize this and not pull punches. They need to keep their women in check. Men today are like bad parents who give in to the whims of spoiled brats who whine and plead for things. They dont’ realize that by giving a spoiled child her way, they’re only contributing to the ultimate decay of her character. Women today are symptomatic of spoiled children who have never been told “NO” in their life. “NO” is probably the only thing left on this planet that can save women from themselves at this point.

NO, you can’t work here you dumb biitch, you’re not smart enough.

NO, you can’t vote, you’re not reasonable enough.

NO, you can’t be cop or fireman, you’re not capable enough.

We need to stop this nonsensical approach to letting the exception to the rule become the rule or dictate the rule. Sure we know there are 300lbs. Helga beasts with industrial strength thighs that could beat a man to death with one of their tampons. But that’s the EXCEPTION, not the RULE. We need real men with balls to stand up and declare this, to not be afraid of starting inciting a politically correct firestorm backlash. Forget about polls, forget about surveys, forget about referencing the status quo. We already KNOW for a fact that women are idiots. Our responsibiity as men is to take care of them, not encourage them to defy their own function and become men. This is like giving false hope to a retarded kid and telling him he has a chance to join MENSA if he just puts in the effort.

This fantasy generation of deluded women has produced the current self-deluded culture you see on tv and in the movies. But it does little to mirror real life. In real life, women are idiots who NEED men to do ANYTHING. We need to get men into power who will stand up to these pussified emasculated incumbents and set new precedents. We need men who are versed in feminist jargon and can translate their foolishness into English. We need to have these arguments and valid points condensed into a mens studies packet to innoculate future generations of young boys against the dangers of letting a woman think out loud without a man around to help her.

And why is it that men are not becoming teachers?  Because we want to pursue lucrative multi-hundred thousand dollar jobs and careers in business and technology.

Or because dealing with the amount of red tape and political correctness necessary doesn’t coincide with the pay scale. Men are practical, they like to eat. They like to pay for housing without having to put their Subway sandwiches on layaway. It’s not that men don’t like teaching. It’s that the teaching position has degraded into an incompetent bafoon soapbox that women eagerly seek out because it requires very little competency or intelligence. I aspired to be a teacher at one time. But then I met my future colleagues. And had the unfortunate opportunity to deal with the bureaucracy that is the American Educational System. No thanks. I’d rather make money without having to cut my masculinity off at the knees. Before we can teach, we have to have something written by a MAN to teach them.

We are selfish for ourselves and our families.  We do not want to sacrifice pay grade for a teachers’ salary,

Being practical isn’t being selfish. Unless you’re undermining the value of the word “selfish” in order to make pragmatic matters seem ethically void. Because then every decision would qualify as a selfish decision. Even teaching.

notwithstanding the opportunity to shape the next generation of young men, notwithstanding to educate young men on what it really means to be a man.

I fully agree this is necessary. But again, this is secondary to the more immediate need of setting political/legal policy which would ENFORCE AND LEGALIZE such teaching. You have to have legs before you can stand on them.

We have defaulted this job to women.  Sad.

This is a tragedy that has happened too gradually to notice without an untrained eye. Thankfully, men make the best problem solvers.

That’s our choice as men, of course.  But that makes the boy crisis OUR fault, and OUR shame.

Well intelligent men realize that it’s “our” fault, not just the fault of men. But nonsensical women don’t even realize there’s a problem. And emasculated men are taught to blame themselves for all female problems.

If we do not choose to be teachers, there is still something we can do to make a difference in the lives of boys.  We can volunteer in thousands of ways in our communities, to be that male model boys so desperately need.  We can try:

– baseball/football/basketball…etc. coach
– scout leader (this is my choice)
– Big Brothers
– academic tutor

-We can also revolt and start over. Extreme situations call for extreme measures. I hope it hasn’t yet reached that point because I’d like to enjoy the rest of my vacation time sans the bloodshed. Women burned their bras. Maybe men will burn their sexual harassment handbooks at work.

The list goes on.  Failure to do this much is even more OUR fault, each one of us, because these can be done WITH our careers.  If we don’t do this, SHAME on us, and we have little right to blame the crisis ALL on “evil feminism.”

I only plan on blaming 95% of it on evil feminism. And the other 5% on Sex in the City reruns. But I guess that would be repetitive. Okay all 100% it is.

When women start caring mens’ rights, then I’ll worry about equitable blame distribution. It’s time to fight fire with fire.

For us to take on this measure, the feminists have been asking and waiting, and so far we have not responded.  It is now well past time for us to do what is right for our boys.

What do you mean we haven’t responded. I have already left many a dinner check with shell-shocked women who looked like they were about to curl up into the fetal position at the notion of TRUE equality.

09-19-2006 07:41 PM

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Happy_Bullet
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haha. well if computer games and random internet information are the “standards” by which women will be compared, it appears as though it might be quite easy to “deal with it”

You censored Noer’s Internet article.

I believe currently video games are under attack for promoting violence. They’re definitely disliked by women in any case.

So it sounds like you are threatened by those things, in all your glory.

And yeah, I really do think video games and the Internet are preferable to the hell of marrying a crap westernized, feminized, career woman.

I mean, how’s “dealing with it” going for you on here, against these Internet educated guys?

So it’s not going to be easy to deal with it. Ha ha.

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-20-2006 12:18 AM

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dumbbroad
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You censored Noer’s Internet article.

What are you talking about? I didn’t censor anything. He has a right to say whatever he wants. I just happen to disagree.

I believe currently video games are under attack for promoting violence. They’re definitely disliked by women in any case.

I’m not against video games as a whole, though I don’t see the point of games that re-enact war or have players carjack and beat people up. Surely the creative minds behind video gaming could come up with something more ingenious.

So it sounds like you are threatened by those things, in all your glory.

Threatened by the Internet and video games? Uh, nope.

And yeah, I really do think video games and the Internet are preferable to the hell of marrying a crap westernized, feminized, career woman.

But we weren’t talking about video games and the Internet as an alternative to marriage to career women. We were discussing them as an alternative to basic K-12 education. I imagine you still feel the same way, but just saying.

I mean, how’s “dealing with it” going for you on here, against these Internet educated guys?

Quite well, I imagine.

So it’s not going to be easy to deal with it. Ha ha.

Um, right …

09-20-2006 12:55 AM

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Happy_Bullet
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WTF? Was this a reply?

You censored Noer’s Internet article.

What are you talking about? I didn’t censor anything. He has a right to say whatever he wants. I just happen to disagree.

Translation: “And it got censored because of my enormous whinging tirade. Nothing to do with me. Since when have women been responsible for their actions?”

I believe currently video games are under attack for promoting violence. They’re definitely disliked by women in any case.

I’m not against video games as a whole, though I don’t see the point of games that re-enact war or have players carjack and beat people up. Surely the creative minds behind video gaming could come up with something more ingenious.

Translation 1: “I want to control video games so they are uninteresting to men just like the education system. Forget that this will destroy the video games market just like I destroy everything else I get my hands on. See, I’m a screwed up feminazi malluta that can’t stand to not control the world.”

Translation 2: “I have a problem with video games.”

So it sounds like you are threatened by those things, in all your glory.

Threatened by the Internet and video games? Uh, nope.

Why-then-do-you-have-a-problem-with-them?

This is even worse than if women don’t want to marry, what’s the problem with the article.

At least it’s not such an obvious admission of your own lack of value as IMBRA though, but close.

But we weren’t talking about video games and the Internet as an alternative to marriage to career women. We were discussing them as an alternative to basic K-12 education. I imagine you still feel the same way, but just saying.

Irrelevant point then. Congratulations on being an idiot!

I mean, how’s “dealing with it” going for you on here, against these Internet educated guys?

Quite well, I imagine.

Yes. It certainly looks like we’re all converted. I’m off to give my life in slavery to a skank career hoe right now!! WTF? Are you so narcissistic that you secretly imagine that we are coming around despite how forceful we try to be in telling you that you suck arse over and over, declining marriage rates and how what you are doing is having the opposite effect to this, with this forum leading to the creation and advertisement of ADDITIONAL Internet information to educate people on avoiding you???

No wait, I’m positive you really are that self-absorbed and delusional.

Too bad for your desire to control men that the Internet cannot be completely censored.

Too bad that market forces will always find some way to entertain men which while leading to us abandoning mainstream education for other sources it would lead to us abandoning those sources for other sources as soon as you got your claws into them in turn.

Sorry, you can never have the control over other people you desire. Deal with that too.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 09-20-2006 03:25 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-20-2006 01:35 AM

Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
dumbbroad
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dumbbroad

Translation: “And it got censored because of my enormous whinging tirade. Nothing to do with me. Since when have women been responsible for their actions?”

As far as I know, the article is still online. I never called for it to be taken down, I just disagreed with its content via a forum set up specifically for expressing opinions on the article. Noer is entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to mine.

Translation 1: “I want to control video games so they are uninteresting to men just like the education system. Forget that this will destroy the video games market just like I destroy everything else I get my hands on. See, I’m a screwed up feminazi malluta that can’t stand to not control the world.”

Translation 2: “I have a problem with video games.”

No, I said I don’t personally understand the fascination with violent video games and speculated that there were other topics besides murder that could also be popular, but I did not call for video game companies to change their content. They should be free to produce whatever they want.

“Are you so narcissistic that you secretly imagine that we are coming around despite how forceful we try to be in telling you that you suck arse over and over”

No, I imagine you and many of the other posters are fairly set in your opinions and I don’t expect to change them. What I do expect, however, is a healthy debate. But what I’ve received from you and a few others are insults and commentary that is far from constructive. I don’t believe I resorted to name calling in my previous posts and if I did, I apologize because that’s rather immature, but in the course of several hundred words, you managed to call me self-absorbed, delusional, controlling, narcissistic, an idiot and a screwed up feminazi malluta who sucks arse. How is that going to help me see your point of view?

09-20-2006 11:01 AM

Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
tellafriend
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tellafriend

dumbbroad wrote:

No, I imagine you and many of the other posters are fairly set in your opinions and I don’t expect to change them. What I do expect, however, is a healthy debate. But what I’ve received from you and a few others are insults and commentary that is far from constructive. I don’t believe I resorted to name calling in my previous posts and if I did, I apologize because that’s rather immature, but in the course of several hundred words, you managed to call me self-absorbed, delusional, controlling, narcissistic, an idiot and a screwed up feminazi malluta who sucks arse. How is that going to help me see your point of view?

You forgot Professional Victim.. you know…. the part that helps you throw a moral indignation tantrum so you can conveniently and hypocritically overlook your own behavior.

And I’d like to add “dumb biitch.” Can you make sure you underline that one and put it somewhere near the top of the list. In 16pt font. Helvetica. Bold. In all CAPS.

And if you have some spare time, add “silly”.. also you could try “ridiculous”, but I think silly pretty much covers that.

09-20-2006 11:53 AM

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Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet
I’m repeating myself now:

As far as I know, the article is still online. I never called for it to be taken down, I just disagreed

Blah blah blah the article being censored (the complete original version is not online) had something to do with me, but I’m not responsible for my actions.

See, if what you’re doing is coming on here to try BULLSH*T us, then I may as well call you on it and provide adequate description of your character.

No, I said I don’t personally understand the fascination with violent video games and speculated that there were other topics besides murder that could also

Blah blah I have a problem with video games.

See, if what you’re doing is coming on here to try BULLSH*T us, then I may as well call you on it and provide adequate description of your character.

How is that going to help me see your point of view?

Who cares about this crappy straw man argument, or the chimera of your enlightenment? That’s not the point of contention, what is, is that you reckon you can “deal with our standards for comparing women” easily. Now you’re backtracking on that little bit of delusion.

I guess your little, dare I say, insult:

haha. well if computer games and random internet information are the “standards” by which women will be compared, it appears as though it might be quite easy to “deal with it”

Is completely invalid, proven by me, by logical debate, with a few well deserved insults thrown in because of the character and agenda shown in your point of view and insulting behaviour.

And frankly I’d rather keep uh (what have we got here) self-absorbed, delusional, controlling, narcissistic, an idiot and a screwed up feminazi malluta who sucks arse who is also a pathological liar, professional victim and ridiculous out of politics. I think you’ll find a lot of people with similar opinions. Hence why I wear the badge of anti-feminist.

So you’re not here for “healthy debate”. Such things don’t exist in your world. What DOES exist, is bullsh*tting/manipulating men into doing stuff for you or accepting bad behaviour from you.

I’ll reserve healthy debate for reasonable people without your agenda. Best thing I can do in response to that is convince you, your bullsh*t/manipulation skills are quickly becoming useless with the advent of Internet education. This way you can perhaps, as a last resort, perhaps try out being a reasonable person, at which point you may become privvy to healthy logic.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 09-21-2006 03:49 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-20-2006 08:53 PM

Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
dumbbroad
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dumbbroad

“See, if what you’re doing is coming on here to try BULLSH*T us, then I may as well call you on it and provide adequate description of your character.”

Have I called for the article to be censored, taken down, or altered in any way? No, I have not. Mr. Noer is entitled to his opinion. The Forbes editorial staff is at liberty to publish whatever they deem newsworthy. They should put the full article back up so that people can read it and draw conclusions for themselves.

Some people like today’s video games but I don’t particularly find them entertaining. I’m not passionate enough about the issue, though, to consider myself as having a “problem” with them. I played Nintendo, Sega and Atari as a kid and improvements since then are definitely a technological marvel, but I still find myself enjoying old school Super Mario Brothers more than Bond, Madden or other popular ones from today. But if you want to play it or your company wants to distribute them, go right ahead. I’ve purchased games for boyfriends because they like them. They’re just not my thing.

What DOES exist, is bullsh*tting/manipulating men into doing stuff for you or accepting bad behaviour from you.

What have I asked you to do for me? And how is it that I am suddenly the one exhibiting the bad behavior? I haven’t called you any names, questioned your intelligence, suggested that you were manipulative or refused to have a civilized conversation because I assumed you were part of some larger conspiracy hell bent on getting women to do things for you.

“I’ll reserve healthy debate for reasonable people without your agenda.”

So you reserve healthy debate for people who agree with you? How is that a debate?

09-21-2006 10:03 AM

Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
tellafriend
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tellafriend

dumbbroad wrote:

So you reserve healthy debate for people who agree with you? How is that a debate?

You dumb biitch, how can you debate anyone when you’re too stupid to even grasp the points being made.

That’s a rhetorical question because your underprivileged input is sponsored by affirmation action. You just made the quota for tiny brain posters complete.

09-21-2006 12:30 PM

Re: Educational Equality…..or not??
Happy_Bullet
Regular Contributor
Happy_Bullet

So you reserve healthy debate for people who agree with you? How is that a debate?

*sigh* Look at this. I fail to see how “reasonable people without your agenda” eliminates everybody except “nobody that disagrees with me”.

It’s just another in a long line of blatant ad nauseum non-sequiturs that prove you are either incapable of or unwilling to participate in debate. So once again, there’s not a lot of point in taking you seriously.

How are posts that make no logical argument, that mostly include euphemisms contradictions or abdication of responsibility, or that miss blatant points like “the whole comment that I was responding to was insulting”, a debate or by any means “civilised conversation” in any way at all? (Rhetorical question so f*ck off).

You’re just pissy I’m not interested in taking you seriously even though you’re full
of sh*t. Here’s the key: Don’t be full of sh*t. If you are incapable of or unwilling to
do that, you’re not gonna find a lot of sympathy around here.

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-24-2006 03:41 AM

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