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Support IMBRA! Keep the tasks of housekeeping and child care on men’s backs!
Tahirih
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Tahirih

Linda Hirshman, in her book “Get to Work: A Manifesto For Women of the World” states that “For all its achievements, feminism cannot make more progress, private or public, until it turns its spotlight on the family. Child care and housekeeping have satisfying moments but are not occupations likely to produce a flourishing life. Gender ideology places these tasks on women’s backs; women must demand redistribution.

Such demands must be made among large numbers of women in order to create momentum and real change.  As this change roars ahead, men must accept this new paradigm or face life alone since the majority of women will then be “career women.”

The last thing needed is an escape outlet; a route for men to marry non-feminist foreign women.  Not only will this phenomenon enable men to sidestep American women’s desire for marriage and career, it will bring in a population of women very willing to run a household and unwilling to make demands for change.  What is needed is IMBRA!

IMBRA is a law that was crafted to encumber the increasing ease of meeting and marrying foreign women via online dating sites.  Due to the immense political and financial power of the larger sites, the smaller international dating companies were targeted; unfortunately, that strategy has backfired.  A grass roots effort led by a challenger organization, http://online-dating-rights.com (ODR), has resulted in a federal temporary restraining order.  ODR claims that IMBRA restricts speech.  That is, unless the IMBRA disclosure regulations are followed, speech cannot occur.  This is worrisome since volumes of court cases have struck down laws that regulate speech.  A desperate attempt was made to have the judge lift the order, but to no avail.
Please help produce for yourself a flourishing life – support IMBRA and do what you can to stop ODR.

09-04-2006 06:08 PM

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toadman
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toadman

The femmies are getting a little concerned now. There’s already a clause in VAWA that addresses this.

The last thing needed is an escape outlet; a route for men to marry non-feminist foreign women.  Not only will this phenomenon enable men to sidestep American women’s desire for marriage and career, it will bring in a population of women very willing to run a household and unwilling to make demands for change.  What is needed is IMBRA!

Blocking the male escape routes now? Just who the hell does she think she is? Is this a parody post of the Forbes article from The Onion?

09-04-2006 06:17 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
Proof of Feminists hatred of men and women and the very nature we live in. American society will fail if you block personal freedom and choice.

09-04-2006 07:09 PM

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minx12
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minx12

That is one of the stupidest things I have seen in a long time.

09-04-2006 07:17 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself
I think I have less than ten years to make my escape otherwise the Feminists will be collaring men with GPS receivers to monitor your movements.

09-04-2006 07:24 PM

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minx12
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minx12

And when you have sent all the single men screaming out of the country, NO YOU CAN’T HAVE MINE!

09-04-2006 07:26 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius

toadman wrote:
The femmies are getting a little concerned now. There’s already a clause in VAWA that addresses this.

The last thing needed is an escape outlet; a route for men to marry non-feminist foreign women.  Not only will this phenomenon enable men to sidestep American women’s desire for marriage and career, it will bring in a population of women very willing to run a household and unwilling to make demands for change.  What is needed is IMBRA!

Blocking the male escape routes now? Just who the hell does she think she is? Is this a parody post of the Forbes article from The Onion?

you quoted a signed act there ? This is written in the vawa act literally ?

09-04-2006 07:27 PM

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Cassius
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Cassius

minx12 wrote:
And when you have sent all the single men screaming out of the country, NO YOU CAN’T HAVE MINE!

They will get their men alright, depends on what kind of men. Sone play their game put up a pretty face but when they come over a bump in the road bank accounts are cleaned out and husbands are nowhere to be found, because you do not tell your wife you see a problem in a relationship, shell talk to her lawyer first, then you.

09-04-2006 07:36 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself

Tahirih wrote:

Linda Hirshman, in her book “Get to Work: A Manifesto For Women of the World” states that “For all its achievements, feminism cannot make more progress, private or public, until it turns its spotlight on the family. Child care and housekeeping have satisfying moments but are not occupations likely to produce a flourishing life. Gender ideology places these tasks on women’s backs; women must demand redistribution.

Such demands must be made among large numbers of women in order to create momentum and real change.  As this change roars ahead, men must accept this new paradigm or face life alone since the majority of women will then be “career women.”

The last thing needed is an escape outlet; a route for men to marry non-feminist foreign women.  Not only will this phenomenon enable men to sidestep American women’s desire for marriage and career, it will bring in a population of women very willing to run a household and unwilling to make demands for change.  What is needed is IMBRA!

IMBRA is a law that was crafted to encumber the increasing ease of meeting and marrying foreign women via online dating sites.  Due to the immense political and financial power of the larger sites, the smaller international dating companies were targeted; unfortunately, that strategy has backfired.  A grass roots effort led by a challenger organization, http://online-dating-rights.com (ODR), has resulted in a federal temporary restraining order.  ODR claims that IMBRA restricts speech.  That is, unless the IMBRA disclosure regulations are followed, speech cannot occur.  This is worrisome since volumes of court cases have struck down laws that regulate speech.  A desperate attempt was made to have the judge lift the order, but to no avail.
Please help produce for yourself a flourishing life – support IMBRA and do what you can to stop ODR.

This is a woman on drugs. I just gets funnier everyday.

09-04-2006 07:40 PM

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Spoogie
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Spoogie

It’s prefectly within our rights to marry a foreign woman – as long as she is a foreign white woman.

You guys almost got it right.  It’s all right and well to say we need to preserve our society, but if we keep marrying these muds and sullying our culture – we won’t have a society to preserve.

I wouldn’t marry a foreign mud if all the white american females sprouted horns and had their vag’s grow over.

09-04-2006 08:04 PM

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Termi0n
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Termi0n

Spoogie wrote:
It’s prefectly within our rights to marry a foreign woman – as long as she is a foreign white woman.

You guys almost got it right.  It’s all right and well to say we need to preserve our society, but if we keep marrying these muds and sullying our culture – we won’t have a society to preserve.

I wouldn’t marry a foreign mud if all the white american females sprouted horns and had their vag’s grow over.

WTF? This aint a klan meeting.

Message Edited by Termi0n on 09-04-2006 08:32 PM

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

09-04-2006 08:31 PM

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toadman
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toadman

Well there goes this thread when the true haters arrive.

09-04-2006 09:00 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
Tahirih, I read your post in the other thread (thanks), and am delighted to see you’re on top of the general situation enough to know of Hirshman’s book; in another thread I pointed to some links about it (albeit feminist criticisms of it).

I’ve never given the foreign bride business any real thought, and I’m certainly not in the market for any wife. However, in surfing around I’ve come across one or two of the sites, and spent 5-10 minutes looking around and wondering what they’re really about.

To me they always seemed like come-ons designed to bilk men out of their $$’s — but then I could say the same thing about I-Net personals sites in general. I mean, it would be so easy to build a totally, or even just partially, fake database, a virtual dating pool which was virtual in more than just the conventional sense. In fact I’d think one would need to do this to get a site started, because who wants to be the first to arrive at any party?

It’s not too hard to think up how to go about it. Just make up profiles with pictures of decent-looking women (not difficult to come by) who “just want to have fun” and “will try anything once” (wink, wink), and who like football and camping — every average joe’s perfect date.

Even if there are real profiles in the mix, they can always be easily cloned; i.e., how likely is it that someone in Charlottesville is going to find and notice that some profile’s picture is the exact same picture as a profile in, say, Albuquerque? The software could easily detect any such red alarm situations and quickly remove one of the profiles from view before it could be verified by authorities who investigate business fraud — if they didn’t laugh the whistle-blower out of the office first.

The only symptom the hapless sucker experiences is a non-response to his email. But that doesn’t give him much to go on, and besides guys are used to being rejected for no real reason. Not to mention that there are lots of valid reasons why she might not reply. Plus, to the degree that men are bothered by such minor slights, they tend to feel disappointment or hurt rather than suspicion.

Our mark has no way of compelling the service to back up the claim they are implicitly making that there is a real person looking for a date behind the profile. It could be viewed as an attempt by a bullheaded obsessive stalker type to get in contact with the person. They can always claim personal privacy concerns to block any attempt of what might be called independent external database verification.

Because of this, when I had a site up covering issues of concern to single guys, I always advised them to avoid I-Net dating like the plague. Even if you get a response, there’s no guarantee it’s not just someone in a cubicle in India (who’s accent is too thick to do phone work) who’s purpose is to string you along.

The concern, then, is that it’s men who are being taken advantage of and defrauded because the large amount of revenue being generated by these businesses comes from men. The numbers are impossible to come by because the businesses are private, but since the job of initiation is the man’s job, and since the sites are all set up so it’s the sender of a message rather than it receiver who has to pay, it’s men who pay.

I hope I’ve outlined how this could conceivably be going on on a massive scale. All we have is empty assurances that such is not the case.

So, what do you think of my line of reasoning and the concerns it raises? Is there anything in the bill which addresses them, whether the business is foreign or domestic?

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

09-04-2006 09:02 PM

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toadman
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toadman

International Marriage Brokers Regulation Act of 2005

This law took effect on March 6, 2006. It requires that before a foreign woman’s e-mail/mailing address can be sold to an American Citizen or resident, the following must occur:

A. The American man must complete a questionaire on his criminal and marital background.
B.  Non “pre-approved” dating services must obtain his record from the U.S. National Sex Offenders database. This includes data-mining SSN, employment, medical, criminal and local state licensing laws.
C. Both questionaire and record must be translated to the womans native language.
D. The translated questionaire and record must be provided to the woman.
E. The woman must then certifiy that she agrees to permit communication.
F. Only then is the American man allowed to even say “Hi”.

That’s pretty much the gist of it. I don’t subscribe to any Inet dating services but divulging personal info has pretty much killed the industry, especially for the “mom and pop” smaller services.

Here’s one site putting up a fight. Google search “imbra” for many more.

http://www.heart-of-asia.com/gen/imbra.html

Of course many men simply bypass the requirements by rolling the dice and going on vacation.

Message Edited by toadman on 09-04-2006 09:21 PM

09-04-2006 09:20 PM

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Termi0n
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Termi0n

Termi0n wrote:

Spoogie wrote:
It’s prefectly within our rights to marry a foreign woman – as long as she is a foreign white woman.

You guys almost got it right.  It’s all right and well to say we need to preserve our society, but if we keep marrying these muds and sullying our culture – we won’t have a society to preserve.

I wouldn’t marry a foreign mud if all the white american females sprouted horns and had their vag’s grow over.

WTF? This aint a klan meeting.

Our society isnt “white only.” The world isnt “white only.”

Moses married a woman from Ethiopia. Bible belt klanners tend to forget that.

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

09-04-2006 09:27 PM

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Mamonaku
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Mamonaku
“It’s prefectly within our rights to marry a foreign woman – as long as she is a foreign white woman.

You guys almost got it right. It’s all right and well to say we need to preserve our society, but if we keep marrying these muds and sullying our culture – we won’t have a society to preserve.

I wouldn’t marry a foreign mud if all the white american females sprouted horns and had their vag’s grow over.”

Spoogie is it?

I REALLY hope you are joking. If you have opinions like that, keep it in your nasty hole.

You are embarassing the MRA’s on this board.

Thanks.

09-04-2006 10:21 PM

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Freeyourself
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Freeyourself

Mamonaku wrote:
“It’s prefectly within our rights to marry a foreign woman – as long as she is a foreign white woman.

You guys almost got it right. It’s all right and well to say we need to preserve our society, but if we keep marrying these muds and sullying our culture – we won’t have a society to preserve.

I wouldn’t marry a foreign mud if all the white american females sprouted horns and had their vag’s grow over.”

Spoogie is it?

I REALLY hope you are joking. If you have opinions like that, keep it in your nasty hole.

You are embarassing the MRA’s on this board.

Thanks.

Spoogie will marry a white woman that will spend $300 a year on suntan lotions to look like a Brazilian tanned Morena!

09-04-2006 10:52 PM

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Mamonaku
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Mamonaku
“Spoogie will marry a white woman that will spend $300 a year on suntan lotions to look like a Brazilian tanned Morena!”

He should be so lucky!!

If we’re talking about Morena Corwin … lets just say I would hit that from tha back ten ways to Sunday!!

* Ahem *

Peace.

Message Edited by Mamonaku on 09-04-2006 11:01 PM

09-04-2006 10:59 PM

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juliandroms
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juliandroms
This is what American women are about, and why they are to be avoided.

Control, control, control.

An American women believes she is free to do whatever she pleases. But at the same time, she believes it is men’s obligation to support her in whatever it is that she chooses to do.

Not true.

You choose to do as you wish, and so will men.

09-05-2006 06:56 AM

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moneyneversleep
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moneyneversleep

You are certified fat psycho.  Just because you are fat and fugly, don’t think you can limit men’s available options or not being saddled with you and allowing you to become pregnant and trying to take the man’s income and assets.  What a completely inane and stupid posting. Try suicide.

09-05-2006 12:26 PM

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Hujo
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Hujo

Hahahaha, so feminism ruined our women and then the feminuts try’s to force us to stick around and marry them, Ha ha ha, you made your bed feminists, don’t expect us to sleep in it with you, we’ll be sleeping with women that, you know, actualy like men, and that think of other people around them besides themselfs.

I dont think ALL american women are bad chocies, but no one has the right to tell us who to fu*k, feminists get more looney daily.

You can smell the desperation on ’em.

09-05-2006 03:26 PM

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juliandroms
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juliandroms
So much for the first amendment…

09-05-2006 03:27 PM

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juliandroms
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juliandroms
Most of the men I know who marry foreign women meet them while travelling in foreign countries, not through suspicious-sounding internet dating services.

09-05-2006 03:29 PM

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Hujo
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Hujo

I know! What guy would go thru a seedy ad like that, feminists will do anything to try and ruin a man’s happiness and then paint the situation to make him look like a lout if he trys to gain a little paridise for himself.

So it’s marry a woman that makes you unhappy, or be branded a slave owner?

**bleep** how about we just destroy  feminism instead, yeah I like that idea better!

09-05-2006 03:41 PM

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c4d
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c4d
hey keeping the tasks of housekeeping on men is EASY just DON’T ASK THEM TO COMMIT because they know that if you’re OVER and their place isn’t NICE and SPOTLESS they ain’t getting ANY

and child care that’s even EASIER.. just give them CUSTODY!!

09-05-2006 11:08 PM

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moneyneversleep
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moneyneversleep

A smart man ONLY bangs a woman at her place, to allow for a swift exit if there are any issues.  He NEVER lets her know where he lives and, if he does, he won’t invite her over.  Problem solved.  Lady, for every fat fugly feminist there are at least 2-3 easy going women.  Get over it.

09-06-2006 09:57 AM

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