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msakroot
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msakroot

Marrying a career woman means that you’re marrying a woman that can do it all on her own.  Why would or should she allow her man to lag, lack, slack, – she doesn’t need that because she “can do it on her own.”

Marriage now days isn’t the committment it used to be, we don’t marry for the same reasons we used to, we often settle or search for a particular “type” but in doing so we sell ourselves short.  Leaving us open to meeting somebody outside of the relationship.

A career woman is a determined, intelligent being who knows what she wants, knows how to get and isn’t scared to do so.  If her husband was to be an opposing force in any of her goals, he’ll be the first one to go.

To say “Don’t Marry a Career Woman” in short is wrong.  Don’t marry a career woman if you aren’t ready to deal with a career woman – the man has to be prepared to be a man, step up to the plate and do what needs to be done.  When mommy works late, he needs to cook dinner and put the kids to bed, just like mommy would do if daddy wasn’t home.

Marriage is 100/100 – so if you’re not ready to put out the effort and energy and accept that things don’t always go your ideal way or can’t compromise that thought that you were taught as a child about marriage – you don’t need to marry anybody.

If you’re looking to have a leach at home, living off your paycheck, depending on you to clothe her and feed her – marry a non-career woman.  If you’re looking for a woman that can add to the financial wealth of your family – Man Up and Marry a Career Woman

09-06-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Too Independent
Termi0n
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Termi0n

Again with the “be a man and take it up the tailpipe” bull.

“To say “Don’t Marry a Career Woman” in short is wrong.  Don’t marry a career woman if you aren’t ready to deal with a career woman – the man has to be prepared to be a man, step up to the plate and do what needs to be done.  When mommy works late, he needs to cook dinner and put the kids to bed, just like mommy would do if daddy wasn’t home.”

I fail to see whats in this for me. I’m not getting married so I can be a mommy because mommy is too busy with her career to do her job. Not to mention the damage it would do to my kids. Dont get married and dont have kids if you’re not going to live up to the responsiblities you’re born into.

Women want fried ice. -Arab Proverb

09-06-2006 05:16 PM

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BocaGuy
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BocaGuy

“Man Up”

That’s amusing. Using guilt won’t work. We’ll “Man Up” and do whatever the hell we want. It won’t be marrying career women who will drop us like a hot potato as soon as she’s bored or her always changing needs aren’t met.

Here’s a thought, why don’t you “Girl Up” and learn to be nice and learn to compromise once and a while.

09-06-2006 05:19 PM

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toadman
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toadman

Incredible… Read every paragraph again word-for-word.  That’s a keeper post to copy/paste.  Can I get your approval for republishing?

09-06-2006 05:32 PM

Re: Too Independent
porkchops38
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porkchops38

msakroot wrote:

If you’re looking to have a leach at home, living off your paycheck, depending on you to clothe her and feed her – marry a non-career woman.  If you’re looking for a woman that can add to the financial wealth of your family – Man Up and Marry a Career Woman

There are many other options available to men who are looking to marry.
I can think of a 3rd option: Marry a woman whose value system causes her to be highly satisfied being an active mother and housewife, where she works her butt off cooking meals from scratch which saves the family money, where she sews clothes herself saving the family money, where she grows a garden at home saving the family money, etc. A SAHM who works hard at her family and marriage such as this could save a typical family tens of thousands of dollars per year on food, clothing, and day care costs. Furthermore, social statistics show children raised in two-parent families are better off socially, and you can’t put a price on that.

In summation, if you think a man’s options are limited to just those two choices, then you are one clueless dimwit.

09-06-2006 05:51 PM

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tellafriend
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tellafriend

msakroot wrote:
Marrying a career woman means that you’re marrying a woman that can do it all on her own.  Why would or should she allow her man to lag, lack, slack, – she doesn’t need that because she “can do it on her own.”

What this stupid biitch is forgetting is that women ALWAYS depend on men for EVERYTHING. She’s another delusional biitch thinking that she’s independent just because she attended a few WNBA games in her flannel jacket. Men are looking for HOT chicks not butch looking women who want to arm wrestle over the check (and win)

Marriage now days isn’t the committment it used to be, we don’t marry for the same reasons we used to, we often settle or search for a particular “type” but in doing so we sell ourselves short.  Leaving us open to meeting somebody outside of the relationship.

Right. Women marry to get into a guy’s wallet. This is why the divorce laws are the way they are. They are designed to accomodate gold digging biitches like you.

A career woman is a determined, intelligent being who knows what she wants, knows how to get and isn’t scared to do so.  If her husband was to be an opposing force in any of her goals, he’ll be the first one to go.

A career woman is a fat and/or fugly bitch (usually fugly) who can’t get a man to pay her bills. She often mistakes her yapping incoherent babble for intelligence. She’s the typical naggy biitch that won’t shut up. The only thing these butch monsters know how to get are effeminate pussified men who don’t mind women with more back hair and longer penises than them.

To say “Don’t Marry a Career Woman” in short is wrong.  Don’t marry a career woman if you aren’t ready to deal with a career woman – the man has to be prepared to be a man, step up to the plate and do what needs to be done.  When mommy works late, he needs to cook dinner and put the kids to bed, just like mommy would do if daddy wasn’t home.

Yeah don’t marry a career woman unless you’re a pussified effeminate male who likes putting his balls in a woman’s purse. If mommy isn’t cooking dinner that means the fugly biitch is from the Top Ramen school of thought and should be divorced immediately in favor of a hotter non-dykeish woman who will act like a woman.

Marriage is 100/100 – so if you’re not ready to put out the effort and energy and accept that things don’t always go your ideal way or can’t compromise that thought that you were taught as a child about marriage – you don’t need to marry anybody.

Marriage is a feminist scam, so if you’re not ready to hand over the reigns of your life to some raging bull **bleep** feminazi, then try the more rational route–committment. A man gains nothing from being married. He can get the same things being single. Don’t let some manish-looking feminazi trick you into footing the bill for her back hair electrolysis. If you have to compromise with a fugly hag like that, that means you’re with the wrong person. Heterosexual guys don’t want to be in relationships with other guys.

If you’re looking to have a leach at home, living off your paycheck, depending on you to clothe her and feed her – marry a non-career woman.  If you’re looking for a woman that can add to the financial wealth of your family – Man Up and Marry a Career Woman

If you’re looking for a fugly hag who sounds like a cigarette smoking troll when she’s yelling at you to do something, if you want to see the stereotypical fugly in curlers and green cucumber facial mask chain smoking and wagging her finger at you, if you want to form an asexual bond with jabba the hut, then by all means, marry a career woman.

But if you’re a real man, you’ll just stick to banging hot chicks. If you must commit, commit to a hot chick who will cook, clean, take care of you, and not biitch and nag you to death like these fugly trolls and WNBA lookalikes.

09-06-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Too Independent
Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen
Feminism has totally brainwashed this bird.

Perfect example as to why you shouldn’t marry a career woman.

Seriously, any man want to sign up to be in a relationship with this selfish, egotistical, combative, argumentative, difficult woman who always expects to get her way?

American Women in general, and American “Career Women” are FUBAR.

Let them die off.

And of course she gives us the typical “be a man” shaming language.

How about you “be a woman” and place being a Mother and Wife at number one on your priority list, you know before “Career” and “Shopping” and “Oprah” and “Me, Me, Me”.

It doesn’t matter. Feminists have ruined marriage. Feminists have ruined the family. A man is beyond foolish to marry under the current anti-father anti-male anti-family PRO-FEMINIST family court system.

“With women or the female mindset imparted through feminization on the vast majority of society, it will be very easy to control the Empire…I mean…the republic.” – mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com

09-06-2006 06:41 PM

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acrawfield
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acrawfield

compromise is the only way to really make a relationship work. none of this “be a man!” or “no, you be a woman!” is  going to get you anywhere.

I would also point out that if you expect “family” to be number one on your spouse’s priority list, you’d better make sure it’s number one on yours as well.

09-06-2006 06:48 PM

Re: Too Independent
porkchops38
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porkchops38

Back2TheKitchen wrote:
Feminism has totally brainwashed this bird.

Perfect example as to why you shouldn’t marry a career woman.

Seriously, any man want to sign up to be in a relationship with this selfish, egotistical, combative, argumentative, difficult woman who always expects to get her way?

American Women in general, and American “Career Women” are FUBAR.

Let them die off.

And of course she gives us the typical “be a man” shaming language.

How about you “be a woman” and place being a Mother and Wife at number one on your priority list, you know before “Career” and “Shopping” and “Oprah” and “Me, Me, Me”.

It doesn’t matter. Feminists have ruined marriage. Feminists have ruined the family. A man is beyond foolish to marry under the current anti-father anti-male anti-family PRO-FEMINIST family court system.

I couldn’t agree more.

Ameriskanks are trying to sell themselves off as some kind of bargain blowout deal for marriage to a hard-working American man. Unfortunately for them, the gig is up. No self-respectable guy is going to buy a used-up, beat-up, old Ford Escort (Ameriskank) at the price of a brand-new Mercedes Benz. It’s like my grandpa always told me, “If a guy wants fresh clean oats, he should expect to pay a fair price for such, but if a guy can be satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse (typical Ameriskank), well those oats are a little cheaper!”

09-06-2006 06:55 PM

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toadman
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toadman

“compromise is the only way to really make a relationship work. none of this “be a man!” or “no, you be a woman!” is  going to get you anywhere.”

With career boardroom bitches there is no compromise, especially over a family dinner table. They are undesireable in more ways than bearing a man’s children, hence not worthy of pursuit. Straights don’t pursue gays(or vice versa) and most men don’t pursue career women. Is it too hard to figure out that it’s a preference and you just don’t “do it” for us?

09-06-2006 07:14 PM

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acrawfield
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acrawfield

“With career boardroom bitches there is no compromise, especially over a family dinner table. They are undesireable in more ways than bearing a man’s children, hence not worthy of pursuit. Straights don’t pursue gays(or vice versa) and most men don’t pursue career women. Is it too hard to figure out that it’s a preference and you just don’t “do it” for us?”

your ridiculous generalizations aside… of course it’s a matter of personal preference. plenty of men like career women (in fact, my boyfriend’s told me he would never want a stay-at-home wife). plenty of men don’t. so given that it’s a preference, you shouldn’t presume to speak for all men.

09-06-2006 07:26 PM

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toadman
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toadman

Plenty huh? Answer this: Would you consider bearing children to a 35 year-old effeminant, de-masculinated, indecisive non-driven and unsuccessful man still living with his parents or single mommy? Likely not, but there are plenty of women who go for those guys, right? Again, in the woman’s venacular it’s the “eww” factor.

09-06-2006 07:46 PM

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acrawfield
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acrawfield

just because it’s your opinion, doesn’t make it the only or best opinion.
sorry, I know that’s hard to accept.

my ideal guy is about 5’10”, brown hair and eyes, and on the skinnier side. that doesn’t mean I think all the women who prefer big beefy blonde guys are wrong.

09-06-2006 07:54 PM

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tellafriend
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tellafriend

acrawfield wrote:
“With career boardroom bitches there is no compromise, especially over a family dinner table. They are undesireable in more ways than bearing a man’s children, hence not worthy of pursuit. Straights don’t pursue gays(or vice versa) and most men don’t pursue career women. Is it too hard to figure out that it’s a preference and you just don’t “do it” for us?”

your ridiculous generalizations aside… of course it’s a matter of personal preference. plenty of men like career women (in fact, my boyfriend’s told me he would never want a stay-at-home wife). plenty of men don’t. so given that it’s a preference, you shouldn’t presume to speak for all men.

Hey dumb biitch, don’t presume to speak for real men just because your pussified effeminate boyfriend likes to keep his balls in your purse. If you fuglies want to chase after little kids who don’t know any better, that’s up to you. But real men are interested in hot women who can cook, clean, sew, suck c0ck and keep their mouth shut, not yap like an incoherent hyena.

09-06-2006 07:54 PM

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toadman
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toadman

Please honestly answer the simple yes or no question crawdad. Would you find such a man desireable or non and why?

Message Edited by toadman on 09-06-2006 07:57 PM

09-06-2006 07:56 PM

Re: Too Independent
acrawfield
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acrawfield

“But real men are interested in hot women who can cook, clean, sew, suck c0ck and keep their mouth shut, not yap like an incoherent hyena.”

heh… luckily, I’m pretty **bleep** good at all of those things.
perhaps except the keeping my shut. but that’s what item 4 is for, right?

09-06-2006 07:57 PM

Re: Too Independent
phatkat811
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phatkat811
All the sewing references amuse me. Most manly men I know wouldn’t wear clothes their wife made, and most children, once they get to be a certain age that is getting younger and younger, wouldn’t be caught dead in clothing that isn’t store-bought.

09-06-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Too Independent
acrawfield
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acrawfield

I think it’s more for mending and hemming than actually making clothes from scratch.

09-06-2006 08:06 PM

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MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
“…Marriage now days isn’t the committment it used to be.”

Thanks for letting us know what Jerry Springer was about today.

But if your statement is true, it should make marriage easier to achieve (because the bar is lower) not more difficult. Declining marriage rates suggest it’s the latter which is happening.

So, could there be something wrong with your presumptions?

Or was that just a hit-and-run posting because you can’t stand to be out of your fantasy world for more than ten minutes at a time?

Message Edited by MartianBachelor on 09-06-2006 06:32 PM

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09-06-2006 08:11 PM

Re: Too Independent
porkchops38
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porkchops38

phatkat811 wrote:
All the sewing references amuse me. Most manly men I know wouldn’t wear clothes their wife made, and most children, once they get to be a certain age that is getting younger and younger, wouldn’t be caught dead in clothing that isn’t store-bought.

I used to work with an Asian woman about 10 years ago, she was born in Asia and had only been working in America for a few years, her english was good but heavily accented. Anyways, she was wearing some $100 jeans at work one day, and all the other American women at work were jealous of her. I heard one American woman at work make a snide comment about how can an Asian woman who “just got off the banana boat” afford a $100 pair of jeans? The American women hounded this poor Asian girl all day until later in the day the Asian woman told one of the American women in the office that she bought the jeans at a thrift store for only $2, and the rest of the day was a living hell for the young Asian woman. All the American women in the office who were previously making sport of the Asian girl for being able to afford $100 pair of jeans, were now suddenly making fun of the Asian girl behind her back saying she was too poor to afford jeans at the mall and instead had to buy them from a thrift store like poor people do! I couldn’t believe it. Another guy in the office went and told the Asian girl that all the American women in the office were making fun of her behind her back, and the Asian girl left work that day wiping tears from her face. I’ll never forget that day, because that day showed me how evil, cruel, and heartless so many American women can be. There was at least 8 women in the office that day, and they all just destroyed that Asian girl in one day, not a single American woman came to her senses and offered a single shred of sympathy for the Asian girl. All 8 of them piled on like hyennas attacking their prey. It wasn’t long before the Asian girl quit working in that office, if I remember, within 2 months she had found another job and quit working with those cruel American women, and I moved on as well.

09-06-2006 08:26 PM

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Re: Too Independent
toadman
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toadman

Oh yeah women are their own worst enemy and far bigger threat than men. We’re preaching to the choir and digressing here.

09-06-2006 08:30 PM

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ACatInSD
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ACatInSD

It is a sad story. Those women there were evil. Hope she’s been well.
It is nice of you to notice all these though. Some women are cruel.

09-06-2006 09:05 PM

Re: Too Independent
Hujo
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Hujo
“Be a man”

Why would any man marry a woman, working or not, that would define for you, what a man is and expect you to live up to her definition? She also implies most men are below her manly expectations bar, this misandry is what would prevent me from marrying you, not your employment status, good luck, the only man you will get is a spineless chump you can control but apparently that’s what you want.

09-06-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Too Independent
Mamonaku
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Mamonaku
“Marrying a career woman means that you’re marrying a woman that can do it all on her own. Why would or should she allow her man to lag, lack, slack, – she doesn’t need that because she “can do it on her own.”

Marriage now days isn’t the committment it used to be, we don’t marry for the same reasons we used to, we often settle or search for a particular “type” but in doing so we sell ourselves short. Leaving us open to meeting somebody outside of the relationship.

A career woman is a determined, intelligent being who knows what she wants, knows how to get and isn’t scared to do so. If her husband was to be an opposing force in any of her goals, he’ll be the first one to go…”

/Le Sigh.

Msakroot,

You must be new to this topic. We’ve heard the “Independent Woman” speech, and we are less than impressed.

From the “American men have options, American women don’t thread.

I wrote:

Since this is Forbes, lets put it in Finanical terms.

No man is going to make the investment in Marriage and Family if the returns are too little, and the risk too great.

And Feminist Career Women, for the reasons that Mr. Noer stated in his article, are simply too volatile to invest in.

Madam, the facts are these.

Men initiate marriage.
Men initiate procreation.
Women initiate divorce, 2/3rds of the time.
Men lose substantial portions of wealth, their time, and in most cases, their progeny.

Men, therefore, will hedge their risk, in different ways.

Some will marry foreign as I have, others will not marry at all.
Some will move to a more friendly regulatory environment.
Others will try to secure their marriages by contractual agreements.

Since a Man has so much to loose from choosing incorrectly, you’re da-mn right that a man wants the safest and best marriage choice he can make. The laws of Finance demand nothing less.

And, the fact is, that Feminist Career Women are too high risk.
Don’t blame the Men, blame your Feminist sisters.

Feminist Career Women have simply priced themselves out of the market.

Good night.

Message Edited by Mamonaku on 09-06-2006 10:33 PM

09-06-2006 10:30 PM

Re: Too Independent
toadman
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toadman

“What’s love got to do, got to do with it? What’s love, but a second-hand emotion.”
– Tina Turner

09-06-2006 10:43 PM

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phatkat811
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phatkat811

acrawfield wrote:
I think it’s more for mending and hemming than actually making clothes from scratch.

Well, mending and hemming isn’t a full-time job. Depends on how many kids you’ve got, I guess.

There was a poster earlier on who suggested that a wife could save money by making all their clothes. I don’t know of any man – even one with a SAHW – who actually would WANT that! Come on guys, you want to come home to see your woman wearing some tiny little thing she got from Fredericks, not Simplicity Pattern # 150, right?

09-06-2006 11:33 PM

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Back2TheKitchen
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Back2TheKitchen

phatkat811 wrote:
Come on guys, you want to come home to see your woman wearing some tiny little thing she got from Fredericks, not Simplicity Pattern # 150, right?

Those spoiled American Women on Frontier House learned and wore simplicity well. After crying, of course.

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09-07-2006 01:16 AM

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Diogetrix
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Diogetrix

Ha ha. Another of the endless snickering and tee-hee-ing about men’s balls. These girls really know how to manipulate a man – that is, a man with an IQ and emotional maturity that I had when I was about 12-years-old. But, that’s about the kind of “real man” that American women are capable of handling.

09-07-2006 03:09 AM

Re: Too Independent
Diogetrix
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Diogetrix

“But real men are interested in hot women who can cook, clean, sew, suck c0ck and keep their mouth shut, …”  << Is that possible?

09-07-2006 03:12 AM

Re: Too Independent
tellafriend
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tellafriend

acrawfield wrote:
I think it’s more for mending and hemming than actually making clothes from scratch.

Like that stupid biitch was going to figure it out on her own?

She probably had to go look up “cook” in the dictionary.

09-07-2006 03:16 AM

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Re: Too Independent
juliandroms
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juliandroms
> the man has to be prepared to be a man

Thanks but no I’m not interested.

09-07-2006 06:53 AM

Re: Too Independent
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
“Marriage now days isn’t the committment it used to be…”

There was a cartoon in the New Yorker years ago, where the suitor is saying to the woman “I’m not talking about a permanent committment. I’m talking about marriage…”

That about sums it up.
….

Thanks for the re-post, Mamonaku. I must have missed your summary version of things the first time around.

Anyone up for making copies and handing them out at the next luncheon meeting of the local Women’s Chamber of Commerce?

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09-07-2006 01:46 PM

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