Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them


Reader Response to “Don’t Marry Career Women” – Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them

Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet

Romance novels. Women love em. In the book “Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women” what makes a successful romance is described.

Why! I hear you ask am I talking about some lovey dovey crap that women always tell us about and bemoan that we don’t provide them with?

Because I’m not going to that’s why. The most successful romance novel formula hardly includes that stuff. The most successful romance novel formula is one where a powerful dangerous man is castrated.

Here’s how they go:

Take a man, let’s call him Lord Ravenscroft, not exactly a pushover, the villagers near his castle live in fear of him due to a few years ago running the town crier through with a rapier for some off-hand remark.

Anyway, Lord Ravenscroft has just inherited a gift, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS AGAINST HER WILL AS SHE MUST BEAR NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER SITUATION, a young woman, let’s call her Virginia.

Naturally, Lord Ravenscroft, the macho, misogynistic fellow he is puts Virginia hard to work scrubbing floors and cooking meals. Naturally, being a paragon of virtue, AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT VIRGINIA IS A PARAGON OF VIRTUE, Virginia does not really have a problem with hard work and infact saves one of the Lord’s lambs from drowning in the river.

Eventually, of course, Lord Ravenscroft goes a little too far and offends Virginia’s delicate sensibilities. This is a very important part: SHE ACTS DEFIANT TOWARDS HIS BRUTAL DOMINANCE BECAUSE OF HER VIRTUOUS SENSIBILITIES.

At this point, like a true man’s man, Lord Ravenscroft beats her down and rapes her silly, and of course THE READER MASTURBATES AT THIS STAGE, but nevertheless the idea is that he is an evil **bleep**, and she stood up to him.

The main body of the novel involves the above being sort of washed, rinsed and repeated, with Lord Ravenscroft slowly more and more impressed by Virginia’s paragon of virtuehood and her lamb saving graces, whilst at the same time being worn down by her incessant nagging, I mean virtuous defiance, and begins acting more and more kindly towards her until eventually raping her silly is not enough and he must win her love to be happy. IN ORDER TO DO THIS, HE MUST NOW DEMONSTRATE THE LOVEY DOVEY ROMANCE GARBAGE WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. IT’S ONLY APPEARANCE IS TOWARDS THE END OF THE BOOK.

At this point the tables have turned and Lord Ravenscroft’s arse belongs to Virginia. His dangerous power is hers to control as her provider, protector and all round tamed arse biitch. The book ends in marriage. NOTE THAT THE MARRIAGE SIGNIFIES THE END OF THE BOOK AS IT SIGNIFIES VICTORY, THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER OF INTEREST TO THE ROMANCE READER.

So we have a couple of interesting things here. Generally the reader puts themselves in Virginia’s shoes and Virginia must do whatever they fantasize as themselves doing. Ie. Being virtuous, defiant against sensibility-offense and attractive. Not only is there the castration of an alpha male involved, but there’s a little ego trip in the sense that the character they identify with is virtuous and thus irresistably attractive (men can only be a woman’s second love, you see, as they are already more in love with themselves and their own perceived virtue and perceived attractiveness).

Interesting you say. You can see historical reference in this story you say. So then, how is it that things have gone a little awry and this sort of thing no longer happens with such frequency.

Well it stopped bloody happening when women lost the ability to be virtuous. Instead they rely on some politically correct expectation that people treat them as if they are virtuous, even if they are stupid, entitled, skank whores.

Thus women’s power to attract men is greatly diminished in modern times while their “defiance” more resembles the assholery of Lord Ravenscroft than the sensibility guarding Virginia. Note that this is only realised by external parties and not by the deluded idiots themselves due to the effect of the politically correct media, ego-gratifying hate speech of feminazis and so forth.

How they’ve TRIED to put out more “progressive” romance novels and actual lovey dovey ones, but they quite simply just do not sell in such massive numbers as the ones that follow the formula outlined above.

You can see women trying to act out this fantasy in real life and even on this forum. That they are completely impotent to do so due to their patent lack of virtue appears to be most frustrating to them.

Oh and some of the biggest arsehole guys on this forum would appear to be their biggest fantasies come to life!!

Thankyou for listening HAHAHAHAHAHA

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 09-21-2006 09:40 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-21-2006 08:26 AM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
MartianBachelor
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“NOTE THAT THE MARRIAGE SIGNIFIES THE END OF THE BOOK AS IT SIGNIFIES VICTORY, THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER OF INTEREST TO THE ROMANCE READER.”

right on… I just posted in another thread the observation that lots of women have the fantasy of getting married, not of being married. Call it developmentus interruptus.

Have you ever read Harriet Rubin’s excellent book “Endless Rapture” (Rape, Romance, and the Female Imagination)? Highly recommended, even if you have to pay $100 for a rare used copy.

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09-21-2006 02:08 PM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
HappyMom
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HappyMom
Have you ever heard the quote “Brides aren’t radiant – just triumphant” ?

Its our nature I guess – to attract someone who stay and help raise the kids – since fathers are necessary and irreplacible by substitution whatever it may be. It turns sour when the wife doesn’t have any interest in raising the kids or fulfilling obligations herself.

09-21-2006 02:17 PM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
“Have you ever heard the quote “Brides aren’t radiant – just triumphant” ?”

No, but I’ll certainly remember it. Thanks.

Here’s another one:
“A wedding is an orgy of female narcissism.” – Matthew Fitzgerald

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09-21-2006 03:24 PM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet

MartianBachelor Wrote:

Have you ever read Harriet Rubin’s excellent book “Endless Rapture” (Rape, Romance, and the Female Imagination)? Highly recommended, even if you have to pay $100 for a rare used copy

I’ll keep an eye out for it, but I have read Nancy Friday’s “My Secret Garden” in which a lot of “being taken” fantasies are described. That book was actually one of my initial contacts with feminism, where I liked what they had to say, thus leading to my further involvement and of course resulting conversion to anti-feminism poste haste.

HappyMom Wrote:

Have you ever heard the quote “Brides aren’t radiant – just triumphant” ?

I have heard this sort of thing.. Someone said on his wedding video the look on his wife’s face was not joy, but triumph. I can’t bring myself to believe this is true across the board. Heh, maybe I’m just setting myself up to become even more cynical here, but whatever.

HappyMom Wrote:

Its our nature I guess – to attract someone who stay and help raise the kids – since fathers are necessary and irreplacible by substitution whatever it may be.

Nothing wrong with this and I imagine this is partly where the above comes from. The above seems to me more neurotic than the paradigm of a happy relationship though, of course. Obviously healthy relationships are where there is “cooperation in virtue”. Rather than one side being virtuous and the other side being in need of “reforming” and especially not where that side is treated as being so, when they are fine.

HappyMom Wrote:

It turns sour when the wife doesn’t have any interest in raising the kids or fulfilling obligations herself.

I really appreciate the insight of your posts on here HappyMom. I agree. My take on this was that the marriages that do work are based on “friendship” and the spirit of cooperation rather than the above spirit of conflict. Of course, ideas can be sold based on the spirit of cooperation, but in a “you first” manner. So it’s not all so simple

I’m going to elaborate a little on the above, because I believe it’s this fantasy that sold feminism to women by means of a psychosexual temptation.

If you notice the common trend in feminism it is that men are evil and women are virtuous. This can be easily sold to women as they can then:

1. Revel in their moral superiority… (If there’s one thing I’ve noticed women brag about apart from guys being attracted to them, it’s their moral superiority for various things. This is in fact, because the two are related.)

2. Gives them a moral justification for “virtuous defiance”. Which appears to be a common method to “tame a man into wanting a pair bond”.

It seems that in today’s world of immediate gratification, it has been seen as preferable to seek fantasies like this out. Feminism has provided a fraudulent justification for living out the above fantasy.

The unfortunate thing about the above, is that in many cases, “virtuous defiance” is completely unnecessary. Most men are not evil misogynistic Lord Ravenscrofts that get away with murder. They are kind decent guys.

In fact, in today’s society, many men even come “pre-tamed” by political correctness.

It’s easy to see where a problem arises where women are trying to obtain gratification by living out this fantasy, but it is not possible as their justification is fraudulent. Feminists have tried to compensate for this by demonising every little thing men do, thus giving women a politically correct justification for moral defiance against decent men.

Because, in the real world, attraction from external parties is related to REAL attractive qualities and not fantasies (ie. they have to REALLY be virtuous), but with women expressing “defiance” at nothing, in an attempt at grasping immediate gratification, they are acting in a decidedly NON-virtuous manner. Thus modern women are becoming less and less attractive to men.

Women, these days are less “empowered” to attract men because of feminism!!

A man not being affected by a woman’s supposed “virtuous defiance”, is an enormous slap in the face because it directly invalidates her attractiveness. On the other hand, a man gritting his teeth and bucking to a feminist demand, used to give the feminist a cheap PSYCHOSEXUAL pleasure. A macho guy, gritting his teeth and validating some feminist garbage would make the feminist go home and **bleep**.

Feminism is psychosexual!! And it’s not being validated!! No wonder they are frustrated

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 09-22-2006 02:12 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-22-2006 12:30 AM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
HappyMom
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HappyMom
Women, these days are less “empowered” to attract men because of feminism!!

That’s it!!!! True girl power has always been their ability to attract a man and keep him happy so that he will stick around to help the kids turn out the best that they can.

It’s all about the kids – and the feminists are all to happy to throw them under the bus. Note OneSmartMouthChicks blanket support for abortion and rape and domestic violence victims yet when I brought up the (never enacted) law that would make it a crime if an unborn child is killed as a result of someone attacting the mother – she doesn’t support it. Which is why it never passed. Add that to their support of chucking the father’s out of the house. It seems to me they kind of resent kids in general. They would throw them under the bus in the name of protecting the mother. That doesn’t sound very virtuous to me.

I saw a funny T-shirt the other day. It said “Sex: doing it for the kids.” Of course most aren’t…

Message Edited by HappyMom on 09-22-200606:19 AM

Message Edited by HappyMom on 09-22-200606:20 AM

09-22-2006 06:18 AM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
MartianBachelor
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MartianBachelor
“…but I have read Nancy Friday’s “My Secret Garden”…”

Ya know, there was a big internecine flap about that book when it originally came out. The gals at N.O.W. totally derided it, basically saying they would decide what women’s sexual fantasies are. I’m not making this up. Interesting bit of feminist history, and it dovetails with your psychosexual theory…

“…funny T-shirt the other day. It said “Sex: doing it for the kids”.”

My first impression was “that’s creepy”. I must not get it…

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“The loudest, most strident voices calling women weak, stupid, and incapable of competing in the world at large are the feminists.” – zed the zen priest

09-22-2006 10:15 AM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
Cassius
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Cassius
Tue tellafriend gets all the attention. Why is that ? Iam so nice, I guess i just must try harder to be even more nicier ^^

09-23-2006 10:18 AM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet

Tue tellafriend gets all the attention

Tellafriend being the way he is, getting a lot of attention from feminazis, and being a practicioner of Pickup Artistry is no coincidence.

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

09-23-2006 11:32 PM

Re: Castration Of Men Fantasies And Women’s Loss Of Power To Live Them
HappyMom
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HappyMom
Martian’s comment about women wanting to get married but not be married made me think that Career Women + U.S. Marines might be a workable combo. He’d be gone most of the time so she wouldn’t need to worry about cleaning the house more than once a year, he wouldn’t be there for her to submit to, etc…

I really have nothing against the Marines so maybe this isn’t a great idea. Apparently some high ranking officials believe we’d be better off with an all bachelor force since if a wife cheats it is devastating for motal.

09-24-2006 04:49 PM

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Back2TheKitchen
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HappyMom wrote:
Martian’s comment about women wanting to get married but not be married made me think that Career Women + U.S. Marines might be a workable combo. He’d be gone most of the time so she wouldn’t need to worry about cleaning the house more than once a year, he wouldn’t be there for her to submit to, etc…

Not good. Your typical empowered feminist American Woman would just use his hazard pay to buy her new boyfriend drinks at the bar.

Although, I’m sure feminist Ameriskanks like your idea and see it as another way to f*ck hardworking men over.

They enjoy divorcing Marines while they’re away on duty. The Marine arrives home after serving his country only to be told he’s behind on child support payments and facing incarceration. What a country!

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09-24-2006 08:08 PM

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