Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)


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Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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LONDON, Sept. 29 — Breast cancer cases hit a new record of 36,939 in the United Kingdom in 2004, representing an 81-percent increase in the incidence of the cancer since 1971, official figures show.

The age-standardized incidence in 2004 was 120.8 per 100,000 people, the highest figure on record, up from 66.9 in 1971, the daily newspaper The Independent reported on Friday, quoting the annual statistical report issued by the Office for National Statistics.

The relentless upward trend in breast cancer, the commonest cancer in the UK, is driven by increasing prosperity and the nature of modern lifestyles, accounting for one in three of all newly diagnosed cases of cancer in females.

Breast cancer is increasing in every age group. Among those aged 20 to 34, the disease, though rare, increased by 50 percent in the three decades from 1971 to 2001. In the 45 to 49 age group it rose by 41 percent over the same period. The biggest increases have appeared in the 50 to 64 age group, in which the incidence has more than doubled after introduction of breast screening, which detects tumors too small to be picked up by a doctor performing a clinical examination.

The rise in breast cancer, seen in all developed countries, is linked with exposure to the female hormone oestrogen, influenced by changes in reproduction and diet.

Improved nutrition has meant girls go through puberty and start their periods earlier, while women reach menopause later.

Economic progress has led to smaller families, delayed childbirth and less breastfeeding as women have gone out to work.

LEMMINGS!! QUEENS OF HUMAN POLITICS!!
Aww so cute. Time to die!

Having fewer children before the age of 30, early menarche, late menopause and being obese or overweight after menopause are said to be all factors behind the increase.

Better diagnosis through screening and the improved recording of cases in local cancer registries has also contributed to the statistical increase.

The charity group Breast Cancer UK has demanded action to halt the rise in the disease, according to the report. Enditem.

Article grabbed from Mirror of The Soul.

Nature of modern lifestyles? Smaller families? Delayed childbirth? Less breastfeeding? Career chicks? Fewer kids? Being obese?

Naturally ACTION MUST BE DONE TO HALT THE RISE IN THE DISEASE. But yes, of course let us ignore what the cause is. I hope they’re not expecting us give a rat’s arse.

Now they ARE actually killing themselves with their lemming behaviour.

I’ll tell them I care about lemming’s breasts as much as I care about rodent’s arses if some “save the career skanks’ busted mammaries” cake-and-eat-it-too charity comes knocking on my door for donations. Welcome to independance, suckers.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-03-200604:11 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-03-2006 02:18 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
PatriarchVerlch
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Breast feeding actually reduces breast cancer. Have fun trying to tell miss know it all that thinks breasts are there to give bra’s something to do.

“What are these stupid things for,” as Mizz thing shoves a bottle in babies mouth, the best that man can make, as long as its got a bar code on it.

Did you know when a woman breast feeds it makes a baby’s IQ go up for each month said woman breast feeds? Try telling that to miss thing as she runs off to work in her Hynda at woman speed!

The most well adjusted people on earth came from traditional homes, with a stay at home mother, breast feed and had their needs met as they grew up. Just think about it, a family of with 10 children, 5 boys and 5 girls each raised traditionally would out produce all other types of families. The 5 boys would be more productive in the world wide workforce that the mother by a pace of 1000 to 1.

Two questions beg an answer, if we truly love freedom, why did we let “big government” women vote? The second, why did we ever allow them in the workforce? Answer: I don’t think it was our decision to make.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
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10-03-2006 04:25 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
HappyMom
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Breast Cancer continues to be one of the(if not the) most funded disease researched yet we know how to prevent virtually all cases:
1. Have children before 25 (and after, too is fine but, doing it before this age is the ultimate protection)
2. Breastfeed for a total of 2 years cumulative at least.

There are a whole host of other health benenfits to breastfeeding such as easy pregnancy weight loss, virtually no post partum depreseeion, natural “bonding” hormones to help mother relate to baby, increased child IQ, immunities transfered from mother to baby, less obese later in life for baby…I have a whole bookshelf about this so I could go on…

I’ve also noticed as I’ve gotten older that both pregnancy and breastfeeding were much easier to do early on. Each child is more difficult even though by over all health and fitness level is the same as when I first got married.

10-03-2006 08:28 AM

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I breastfed both of my girls, one for 13 months and one for 18 months, even with working, I pumped to store my milk for them to drink while I was working. I didn’t want them to have formula. And knowing that I was reducing my risk of breast cancer didn’t hurt either. I would not have traded it for the world.

10-03-2006 08:35 AM

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Speaking of Breast Cancer … I was flying on Delta yesterday. We were given the option to purchase Pink Lemonade and have two dollars donated to the Breast Cancer foundation. I wonder if Delta has a similar campaign for Prostate Cancer? We know the answer to that.

Also, the bitter looking career women flight attendants would ask the women whether or not they wanted ice in their drinks. They’d give men ice in their drinks by default, and not ask them whether or not they wanted it.

Wasn’t there a story in the news about there being dangerous levels of bacteria in the ice/water on airplanes?

Is this a subtle way for career chicks to make these unaware men sick in the future?

One can only speculate why they’d only give women the option of whether or not they wanted ice in their drinks.

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10-03-2006 09:52 AM

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“Breast Cancer continues to be one of the(if not the) most funded disease researched yet we know how to prevent virtually all cases:
1. Have children before 25 (and after, too is fine but, doing it before this age is the ultimate protection)
2. Breastfeed for a total of 2 years cumulative at least.”

My grandmother had my mother at age 21, breast fed her and died of breast cancer in 2004. My grandmother’s sister had both her children before age 25, breast fed both of them and died of breast cancer at age 43. So I would disagree that having children young and breast feeding are the main ways to protect against developing the disease. Perhaps you can encourage your sons to go to medical school and fill you in.

Message Edited by dumbbroad on 10-03-200610:39 AM

10-03-2006 10:37 AM

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dumbbroad
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“I wonder if Delta has a similar campaign for Prostate Cancer?”

I would agree that funds should also be allocated for prostate cancer research, as it’s one of the more common cancers for men. My father actually battled it and survived because they caught it early and has done some campaigning for increased research funding.

10-03-2006 10:40 AM

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I definitely agree that money should go towards prostate cancer research as well. But….what in the world kind of drink would they serve?

10-03-2006 10:45 AM

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HappyMom
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dumbbroad wrote:
“Breast Cancer continues to be one of the(if not the) most funded disease researched yet we know how to prevent virtually all cases:
1. Have children before 25 (and after, too is fine but, doing it before this age is the ultimate protection)
2. Breastfeed for a total of 2 years cumulative at least.”
My grandmother had my mother at age 21, breast fed her and died of breast cancer in 2004. My grandmother’s sister had both her children before age 25, breast fed both of them and died of breast cancer at age 43. So I would disagree that having children young and breast feeding are the main ways to protect against developing the disease. Perhaps you can encourage your sons to go to medical school and fill you in.

Message Edited by dumbbroad on 10-03-200610:39 AM

The well known and well documented fact that bearing and brestfeeding children reduce the risk breast cancer doesn’t mean that everyone who does these things is immune. Just that the risk is significantly reduced.
From one of your feminist groups:

http://www.stopbreastcancer.org/bin/index.asp?strid=567&depid=9&btnid=2

we should be teaching this to our young girls before its too late for them. Oh, but some of them might choose to actually follow the advice and have a family instead of get a degree and start a ‘career’

Message Edited by HappyMom on 10-03-200610:53 AM

10-03-2006 10:50 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
dumbbroad
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Well if you mean “significantly reduce” don’t say “prevent virtually all cases” because there is a slight difference.

I don’t think we should encourage anything when it comes to marriage and kids, but let people choose what’s best for them. Some people are ready to get married and have kids at age 22 or younger and they should definitely do that if it makes them happy. But I wasn’t and I’m still not ready to get married or have children. And I’m not going to jump into anything on the off chance that it might lower my chances of developing breast cancer.

10-03-2006 11:20 AM

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HappyMom
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dumbbroad wrote:

Well if you mean “significantly reduce” don’t say “prevent virtually all cases” because there is a slight difference.

I don’t think we should encourage anything when it comes to marriage and kids, but let people choose what’s best for them. Some people are ready to get married and have kids at age 22 or younger and they should definitely do that if it makes them happy. But I wasn’t and I’m still not ready to get married or have children. And I’m not going to jump into anything on the off chance that it might lower my chances of developing breast cancer.

Its not about what makes people ‘happy’ its about doing the right thing. The right thing is to train up our young girls to be ready to be wives and mothers young. If they don’t want to get married, then by all means don’t. Unfortunately they have to decide while they are young and they are not being told this at home or in society by and large.

Whose fault is it you weren’t groomed to be ready for marriage by now? You ar3e physically ready yet too immature or selfish. Why do you think that will change if you continue to have this feminist outlook that causes women to deny all culpability for their lot in life.

10-03-2006 12:02 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
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To HappyMom: in order for a woman to have legitimate children before 25, she would have to be married by the age of 24; probably before then, depending on how long it takes her to get pregnant. Studies consistently show that getting married between 18-25 increases the chances of a divorce. So I guess the choice is breast cancer or divorce?

To Patriarch: yes, they have found bacteria in water sampled from airline restrooms. However, airlines buy ice from commercial vendors. So no, I don’t think that flight attendants are trying to poison men via airplane ice.

10-03-2006 12:20 PM

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HappyMom
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phatkat811 wrote:
To HappyMom: in order for a woman to have legitimate children before 25, she would have to be married by the age of 24; probably before then, depending on how long it takes her to get pregnant. Studies consistently show that getting married between 18-25 increases the chances of a divorce. So I guess the choice is breast cancer or divorce?

To Patriarch: yes, they have found bacteria in water sampled from airline restrooms. However, airlines buy ice from commercial vendors. So no, I don’t think that flight attendants are trying to poison men via airplane ice.

How about we just repeal the no fault divorce laws and change marriage back into the lifelong contract commitment it ought to be? Also, how about making sure 18-15 year old girls have the skills necessary to be successful at marriage instead of acting like it is some horrible thing to want a happy husband and household?

Teach young girls what the qualities of a good man are so she can choose well, teach her homemaking and money saving skills, expose her to lots of children via babysitting and family togetherness, raise her in a stable two parent, father lead household so she has a blueprint to build off of….

10-03-2006 12:31 PM

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dumbbroad
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“It’s not about what makes people ‘happy’ it’s about doing the right thing.”

I guess we would just disagree on that point. I’d prefer a happy mother to a dutiful one. My mom was 29 and 34 when she had me and my sister and at that point, she says, she was really ready to settle down and be a mom.

Whose fault is it you weren’t groomed to be ready for marriage by now?

What does grooming entail? I know how to cook, clean, treat people well and I babysat for 10 years for kids ranging in ages from four months to 10. I’m absolutely capable or running a household and raising kids, but it’s not what I want at this point in time.

You are physically ready yet too immature or selfish.

I was physically ready at 13. But at 26, I’m not emotionally or financially ready. I’m also not married, nor have I met anyone who I’d like to marry yet. Could I give birth? Am I capable of raising a baby? Yes. But I don’t think it would be fair to my kids to have them right now when I don’t want them and couldn’t adequately provide for them. So yeah, maybe I am too immature and selfish at this point, but at least I recognize it.

Why do you think that will change if you continue to have this feminist outlook that causes women to deny all culpability for their lot in life.

A hell of a lot. I’ve grown a lot in the past five years and approach things differently and more maturely than I might have during the college years and I imagine that will continue in the next five years and beyond.

10-03-2006 01:36 PM

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I agree with HappyMom frankly.  Women acting like men is the problem – because God made them different.  Different is NOT inferior.  DumbBroad’s posts seem oddly placed here.

DumbBroad certainly isn’t dumb – but is oddly posting in a site relegated to those who read the statistical basis for not selecting a woman like her as a life partner.

This is perplexing…

DumBroad – should we men ignore the statistics?  Frankly – they are no surprise, men chase young single blonds for a reason – and skip the career types for anything involving permanence.   Perhaps your posts are just one more case of a woman “wanting it all” and “wanting it all at once”.  On of the guys said women wanting a career is nothing but selfishness (and shoe money) – which suggests that selfish folks make poor partners in ANY endeavor.

HappyMom seems to understand the total picture of women’s need for responsibility in life choices and proper selection of a man – which wouldn’t be possible unless she knew what men were supposed to be doing too.  Honestly – her posts are amazing.  DumbBroad, you’re very bright – but missing the point.

You CAN have a career – or you can be happily married and at home raising your own kids,  You can not do both – according to numerous studies cited here by Noer.

David

10-03-2006 01:51 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
HappyMom
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DB wrote:
“It’s not about what makes people ‘happy’ it’s about doing the right thing.”

I guess we would just disagree on that point. I’d prefer a happy mother to a dutiful one. My mom was 29 and 34 when she had me and my sister and at that point, she says, she was really ready to settle down and be a mom.”

There in lies the root of all feminist illogic. The universe does not revolve around whether anyone is happy. The sun doesn’t rise and set based on what anyone wants to do at a given point in their lives. It never was a world in which men were going out there and doing what they wanted to do for the sheer pleasure of it all. They did what they had to do.

Happiness is a temporary emotion elevated to some great goal in life. You will be about as happy as you decide to be. So if a woman has children and a husband she owes it to them to adopt a cheerful demeanor and do the right thing. If a mother isn’t dutiful to her children or husband, the family falls apart. True satisfaction comes from doing what you ought to do, not fighting against nature to prove yourself.

That is the root of female “power”, in making the home a happy environment. Women have the ability to bring a dark cloud to rest over a household or make it a positive and healthy environment that the family enjoys spending time together in. Women’s strength does not come from conquering and subduing the world in the boardroom, courtroom, senate etc. Apart from the woman trying to be men, our feminine nature is just plain bad at that.

It is folly to continue to teach these young girls to chase these dreams. They aren’t realistic and they cause her to miss out on doing what she was designed to do. It doesn’t mean there aren’t some jobs women are capable and skilled at. They just aren’t skilled at certain jobs that require a man mentally or physically. By forcing the doors of the workplace open to put women in positions they ought to not have we have driven down wages, separated mothers and children, and made a big fat mess of the economy. But feminist will continue to celebrate this ‘great accomplishment.’

So we can set them up to be ready for marriage and family when they are best suited to it or we can continue to mislead them into wanting something that is unrealistic. The family is the building block of society and so America like the classic famliy is being torn apart.

Message Edited by HappyMom on 10-03-200601:59 PM

10-03-2006 01:55 PM

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dumbbroad
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Well I guess I don’t have such a utilitarian view of the world. There are things I do out of a sense of duty because they have to get done (work, taxes, laundry) but if I didn’t also incorporate things that made me happy, I’d go insane. Wouldn’t you? I think you said in your first posting that you’re very happy with your current situation, right? Great husband, kids, part-time work from home? That’s what makes your life fulfilling, I imagine, and you embarked on that at a time in your life when you felt ready. All I’m saying is that I don’t personally feel ready to get married and/or have children at this point in my life. I don’t have enough money, I don’t have a husband and I’m not emotionally mature enough to handle children. I’d agree that if you do have a family, they should be a primary focus. I just recognize that I don’t want that to my primary focus for another few years.

10-03-2006 03:09 PM

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HappyMom
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DB

We have a “marry by” date just as milk and eggs have a “sell by” date. Maybe this isn’t fun or fair but it is true. No matter how attractive you are, you will only get less attractive with age. The pool of good guys to have children with decreases as men are always going to go for the prettiest, youngest women they can have. I didn’t decide things to be this way but I can recognize it as true.

So, if you want children, you are really reaching a point where you need to decide that and shape your life around it.

maybe you don’t care if you ever have a family. In that case it doesn’t matter. But if us women want a children, and a father in the house to help us raise them, we have to do it sooner rather than later.

The men on here have already gone on about how they tend to find women over 30/35/40 unattractive. But, if they marry a women when she is young and have children with her they will probably still find her attractive at those ages. But women at those ages will have a tough time finding a new partner.

Message Edited by HappyMom on 10-03-200603:28 PM

10-03-2006 03:27 PM

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Happymom has a point. Like it or not, we as viable fertile individuals, have a shelf life. No getting around it. Fertility peaks in a woman at 27 and sharply decreases after that, with the risk of chromosomal abnormalities rising sharply corresponding to that. Like it or not. Its the way it is.

I got married at 19. I knew I wanted my first child before I was 25 and my second before I was 30. I most likely will have no more. Partly because wages limit me and partly because I don’t want to take the risk of having a child with an abnormality simply to assuage the need for another baby. If it happens I won’t be devastated, and it definitely comes with adjustments.

And to the comment about not being ready financially. My mom once told me that if you wait until you can afford to or be mature enough to have children, you likely never will.

10-03-2006 03:37 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
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Obviously I agree that it becomes harder to conceive as you get older. That’s just a fact. But there are many kids born naturally to mothers in their 30’s who are just fine (my sister and several friends I can think of being just a few). But the idea that at age 26 I am practically an old maid is ridiculous. Looking at the NYT wedding section today, for example, the average age of the first half dozen couples profiled is 32 for the women and 34 for men (the 50-year-old and 48-year-old couple excluded) – meaning I have six years before I even hit that average age. If I had married the guy I was dating at age 19, I know I’d (we’d) be miserable.

10-03-2006 04:15 PM

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dumbbroad wrote:

If I had married the guy I was dating at age 19, I know I’d (we’d) be miserable.

You’d see to it, would you?

Those 32 year old women getting married will be fewer and farther between as more men get justifiably angry about the misandrist laws. Also, alot of those couples may have met when they were younger than you.

10-03-2006 04:18 PM

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If I had married the guy I was dating at age 19, I know I’d (we’d) be miserable. You’d see to it, would you?

No, we’d be miserable because we were incompatible. Having dated other people since him, I know there are other people who treat me better and with whom I have more in common. I imagine he has found the same.

“Those 32 year old women getting married will be fewer and farther between as more men get justifiably angry about the misandrist laws.”

I doubt it.

Also, alot of those couples may have met when they were younger than you.

Only three of the announcements I perused allow you to deduce how old the couples were when they met – one woman was 27, one was 30 and the other was a freshman in college.

10-03-2006 04:32 PM

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minx12
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If I had married the guy I was dating at age 19, I know I’d (we’d) be miserable.

Not me. In fact I gave up college for this man, I loved him so much. No amount of degrees or hi faluting jobs would ever have any kind of meaning to me, if I didn’t have someone I love to be with. I am not going to say the first year was easy. Quite the contrary. That first year was pretty darn hellish, but that was mostly because we were trying to figure out how our personalities and our wants and needs would mesh. Plus, I spoke no “man” and he spoke no “woman” so you can just imagine the fun that created. Just learing how to communicate effectively was an exercise in frustration. And word of advice? NEVER tell your man you can open your own door. So not worth it!!!

Will I go back to college? Maybe, maybe not. my job or dreams are not who I am. I am what makes me happy, whatever that may be. I have to make that choice.

10-03-2006 04:34 PM

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phatkat811 wrote:
To HappyMom: in order for a woman to have legitimate children before 25, she would have to be married by the age of 24; probably before then, depending on how long it takes her to get pregnant. Studies consistently show that getting married between 18-25 increases the chances of a divorce. So I guess the choice is breast cancer or divorce?

Why do you think that is, you dumb biitch?

Feminism has given women the “freedom” of choice. Which means the majority of women are free to sabotage their own happiness. It’s just like letting a child be in charge of her own dinner arrangements. She WANTS chocolate cake all day long, not realizing that a continual diet of chocolate cake will actually make her miserable.

That’s why you need to learn how to take care of a man at a young age. You need to learn how to cook, clean, stfu– all the necessary duties a wife should perform.

It’s not like men are shopping for over-the-hill hags. And once you hit 30, you hit THE WALL. This means your stock takes a nose dive. Your body is sagging. Wrinkles appear, things get jiggly. Many noticable signs of aging. If a man is in love with you before then, he’s just “growing old” with you. But if you’re a wacko feminist and haven’t figured out how to attract a man, then you’re just another cougar. Guys think of you as a booty call. Like the saying goes, “Women are like dog$hit. The older they are, the easier they are to pick up.” Old women are easy to pick up for a reason–NOBODY WANTS AN OLD FEMINAZI HAG. Wake up.

As far as marriage goes, I would never advise a guy to get married under today’s misandrist laws. You can get the same thing being single that you can gamble on being married. Women have groomed the environment around them for relationship failure. Not just by postponing the mating window or failing to take advantage of their youthful appearance or neglecting to learn feminine duties like cooking, cleaning, STFUing, etc.,  but by completely wrecking, through legal strangleholds,  the one institution they salivate over the most.

And no I’m not talking about cat farms.

10-03-2006 04:35 PM

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dumbbroad
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“Not me. In fact I gave up college for this man, I loved him so much.”

That’s great! I’m honestly glad that you two are happy and made it work. My boyfriend at 19 just didn’t happen to be as good a catch!

10-03-2006 04:42 PM

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minx12
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That’s great! I’m honestly glad that you two are happy and made it work. My boyfriend at 19 just didn’t happen to be as good a catch!

If you have one now, don’t let him go. The good ones are hard to find.  And remember when you do find him, never sweat the small stuff and never argue about money. These are some of the biggest love killers I know.

10-03-2006 04:51 PM

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Halladay
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“If you have one now, don’t let him go. The good ones are hard to find.”

Maybe a trip to lenscrafters for new specs would help

10-03-2006 04:55 PM

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75% of cancer funding goes to women. So go figure, at the local Safeway food chain they asked me if I wanted to donate a buck to help fight breast cancer. No way, as I know they get most of the money anyways!!! Cancer is a human problem, and it’s not subject to any one gender.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
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10-03-2006 05:16 PM

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Diogetrix

There’s no way I’m going to read through the female blather – even the rare stuff that’s relevant to thte thread – to find out if someone has raised the right issues about this subject. So, if I get out of context or repetitive, that’s why.
The lung cancer epidemic of the late 50’s and on was not caused by smoking. If you don’t believe me, just tell me why the US health agencies and institutions don’t mention the possibility that nuclear contamination from fuel processes and weapons causes any lung cancer. There is no known particle of plutonium that will not cause cancer. But, there is no mention. Hmmm. And, since the early 70’s many nations have been dusting us with the residue of depleted uranium weapons. Don’t bother to assault me with the government rap – read on line about depleted uranium. If you can’t find the data, if you can’t understand it, if you can’t tell who is lying from who is telling the truth, and if you can’t put 2 and 2 together, then there is no way I can convince you of anything. Leave me alone if you are a fool.
The US used about 3,000,000 tons of depleted uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you think that is not related to increases in breast cancer, go back to where I said, “read on line about depleted uranium.”

10-03-2006 05:23 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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HappyMom owns you all ladies. You can’t see it. From a third person perspective it’s glaringly obvious.

You all wreak of very shaky belief systems, with the exception of perhaps Minx:

Difference between right and wrong? I dunno.

Difference between how to be happy and how to be sad? I dunno.

Difference between logic and irrationality? You must be joking.

Here’s a hint. You cling to the “infinite choice” of feminism, which really means living in chaos with enormous insecurity about which decision is correct. You can’t tell can you? Asides from what feels good in the immediate moment, you have no idea.

Something I’ve been surprised by, and that has opened MY eyes, on this board is how well adjusted the Christians have been. Never considered myself one due to lacking the all important belief in supernatural beings, but it’s not hard to see the security, not to mention sense, of following a tried and true value system, or at least not dismissing it out of hand for “whatever I want to do”.

Lemmings again.

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-03-2006 09:21 PM

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Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Halladay
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Happy,

if you haven’t already mentioned it, abortions may increase the risk of breast cancer…. at least according to some studies

10-03-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
OneSmartChick
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There is NO cancer in my family anywhere.  My family lives between 95 and 106 years old (unless they have an accidental death).  My mother had three children and breast fed ALL of us.  She had breast cancer at 72.   The doctors ( female doctor, by the way – I am sure she is stupid – right Tellafriend? you stupid **bleep**) caught the cancer at stage 0.  Both times.

10-03-2006 11:13 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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OneDumbFeminazi Wrote:

There is NO cancer in my family anywhere.

Oh FFS. What did I just say about logic? This here, ma’am is A.N.E.C.D.O.T.A.L. E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E.

You are generalising that this (possibly B.S.) situation therefore applies to everyone.

You are using this blatantly fallacious argument to oppose S.T.A.T.I.S.T.I.C.S.

I’m sorry, your logic (which I have already pointed out multiple times) is completely absurd and no doubt rooted in a belief that the world revolves around you (so of course perceptions or feelings from your situation apply to everyone). Thus fueling anger when you find out it does not.

Honestly, I used to really believe women were capable of reason, somehow.

That was before this board though.

Whatever. Good for us men are becoming unsympathetic to taking responsibility for your lemming behaviour these days seeing as how hammered in it is that you are independant and we are useless. Break down those chivalry barriers and start exploiting feminist’s stupidity I say!

[ I can even tell them what I am doing and they don’t understand. ]

It appears to be unanimous!

Funding for breast cancer prevention and research is money down the drain. Women have nothing to worry about and my official breast cancer slogan:

I CARE AS MUCH ABOUT A RODENT’S ARSE AS I DO ABOUT A LEMMINGS’ BREASTS

Is universally supported by men and women on the Forbes forum!!

Good. Maybe we can get some research for prostate cancer done with those funds then.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-03-200611:49 PM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-03-2006 11:31 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
HappyMom
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I don’t mean to insult you but rather get you to recognize reality. What is it that you think you will have to offer a man when you are 30, 32 +++ as opposed to now? Discussions about your life experiences, travels, education? Those might be interesting for one conversation but that is not what a man looks for in a wife or mother.

Do you think there is a guy out there who is just wating to meet you and discover your sparkling personality, wit and intellegence and that he won’t care if you are middle age when that happens? No, no no a thousand times no. They want young, healthy, pretty, kind, maternal and pleasant.

You are being told what they want at an age when you are young enough to be that. Your feminist buddies would rather you grow bitter with them as you age than have a husband and kids. They will tell you to keep doing what you want to for the sake of … not a **bleep** thing that matters, to you at least. They have a stake in keeping you on their side. You represent a vote and a donation to them.

Encouraging young women to behave in unattractive ways so that men will treat them badly and they will become bitter towards them in return is a way the often hook women into their cause.

Message Edited by HappyMom on 10-04-200612:38 AM

10-04-2006 12:37 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
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Encouraging young women to behave in unattractive ways so that men will treat them badly and they will become bitter towards them in return is a way the often hook women into their cause.

I have not treated my boyfriends unkindly. If anything, I have been too nice and given them the benefit of the doubt one too many times. I am slowly beginning to recognize that, though it is difficult when you love someone, but it is one of the things I’d like to resolve with myself before I get married. And I’d love to meet someone special right now – who wouldn’t? – I just don’t really want to get married for at least another few years.

“Do you think there is a guy out there who is just wating to meet you and discover your sparkling personality”

But yes, I do believe there is someone who would like to marry me one day despite my old hag status.

“They want young, healthy, pretty, kind, maternal and pleasant.”

I suppose we’ve established that young is relative, but I am pretty, kind, maternal and pleasant, so I’m not exactly buying those cats and looking into life with the convent any time soon.

Out of curiosity, I went through the rest of the list of this week’s wedding announcements from the NYT we were discussing earlier and the youngest two brides were my age, but the average was about 30. Unless this week is some kind of statistical anomaly in NYT wedding announcement history, it would appear that these successful men found these successful women of a certain age to be attractive marriage prospects.

Samantha, 27, a marketing manager for bridal magazines published by Condé Nast and David, 29, is an investment adviser

Melissa, 34, the assistant director of residency training in psychiatry and David, 31, real estate development executive

Jennifer, 28 and Andrew, 32, both doctoral interns

Katherine, 30 and Steven, 35, both TV producers

Ann, 32, oncology nurse and Remy, 36, wine importer

Ellen, 27, policy analyst and Michael, 27, Harvard graduate fellow

Lori, 29, and Matthew, 32, both lawyers

Heather, 33, real estate agent, and John, 33, journalist

Sarah, 31, financial analyst, and Charles, 34, financial technology consultant

Nina, 33, communications director, and Christopher, 33, auditor

Cara, 33, psychologist, and Andrew, 36, marketing

Emily 27, teacher, and John, 26, banker

Jessica, 32, professor of medicine, and Timothy, 29, trader

Jennifer, 27, operations manger, and Gregory, 32, finance

Dina, 26, and Erik, 28, both photographers

Leah, 31, clothing designer, and Andre, 36, TV editor

10-04-2006 01:48 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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DumbBroad Wrote:

but I am pretty, kind, maternal and pleasant,

But I *AM* rweeaallly!! My NOW girlfriends say so!

First of all, add immodest to this list.

Second of all, strike kind and pleasant for your idiocy on here.

Third of all, strike maternal because there are obviously several things you care about over children.

Fourth, “pretty” is relative. For some reason the ugliest women think they’re hot. It’s like the delusion seen on American Idol and 40+ women thinking they are still capable of putting on a bridal gown without looking an imbecile.

You can see it all the time in the ever increasing number of overly optimistic personals ads in the paper, where women describe themselves as “cuddly” and a “challenge” (like that’s desireable).

So what, exactly, is the reason for this foolhardy (lemming-like) over-optimism??

Seems like a syndrome related to believing your pu$$Y is MAAAGGICCKALL!!!

A magic pu$$Y syndrome.

I have not treated my boyfriends unkindly. If anything, I have been too nice and given them the benefit of the doubt one too many times.

I guess we can say “kindness” is relative as well then. As in different standards for you and other people. As in narcissism and histrionic personality disorder (magic pu$$y syndrome is a close relative).

You’re on here arguing that men should not do what is in our own best interests. I’d say you’d consider “thanks!” an appropriate amount of niceness for prince charming buying you a marble palace.

Of course, if you tell him he looks radiant on his birthday, he naturally owes you 50 horse drawn carriages. If not, you were being “too nice”.

You’ve got no idea what the difference between right and wrong is so we can’t expect you to make a proper judgement on something like “how nice YOU are”.

But yes, I do believe there is someone who would like to marry me one day despite my old hag status.

On what grounds? Wiccan Magick? (I know this is close) People have a habit of not doing things for no apparent reason.

Get real you arrogant wench.

I aaam the NNNOOOWWW maagggiiiccckk pussyyy giivvveee innn tooo thhee temmmppttaatttion tooo beee aaa praaattttt.

Sorry but you were asking for it with such a self-serving post.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-04-200602:50 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-04-2006 02:09 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
khankrumthebulg
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The fundamental weakness of Feminism is it is a huge lie. It promotes the idea that Women can choose when to Marry and have children. Human fertility and biology don’t work that way however. This was well known for generations. Women who want to pursue a Career instead of a Husband and children need to understand they are making a choice. And that their choice to pursue a Career with its Satisfaction has a price. They will likely not have children, grandchildren and a legacy. Life is about choices and consequences.

Women today have options. Men don’t. We never have. Men have responsibilities and obligations. It has always been so for us. Men accepted our roles with the caveat that we got our emotional, sexual, and family needs met with a loving Life Partner who supported us. That is gone too. Now Men only have the obligations and no real benefits only liabilities. That has effectively removed the incentive for Men to commit to Marriage and to children. That Career Women don’t care and whine “I want what I want when I want it.” Shows how selfish and deluded our Women have become.

Parents should clue their Daughters and Sons into the realities of life. Not some fantasies promoted by the Lesbians who run the Feminist movement. Feminists are Lesbians or Women being trained to become them.

10-04-2006 08:18 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
dumbbroad
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“Get real you arrogant wench.”

Well, you’ve never met me so you really can’t make an assessment one way or the other. But thanks for proving my point that some of the discussions with men on this board have devolved into name calling rather than constructive dialogue. I might not agree with everything HappyMom has to say, but it’s at least interesting to debate her and I think we’ve maintained some civility.

10-04-2006 10:24 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
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Totally what seems to be off the subject of breats cancer now, I am participating in the Race for the Cure Sunday in memory of my great aunt and my great grandmother who died of breast cancer.

And to all all the men out there, you ever have a Race for cure for prostate cancer, I’d go there too, one of my great uncles died from that too.

Cancer sucks all the way around. I wouldn’t even wish that on my worst enemy. No one deserves that kind of pain. I work in short term disability, and deal with quite a few cancer patients and my heart just breaks for them. What I am doing is a pittance I know compared to their struggles. But I do what I can.

10-04-2006 12:31 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
khankrumthebulg
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khankrumthebulg
I have lost too many relatives, friends of Family to Breast Cancer. Living a life that reduces the chances for dieing of Cancer is smart. Lifestyle has a huge impact on health. The unhealthy lifestyles that Career Women are living will impact their hapiness and longevity in many unexpected ways. Also children born to younger Mothers who are Breast Fed live longer healthier lives. That reality does not seem to resonate with the Trish Wilsons, Pandagon.net and Feministe crowd. As it is all about their selfish needs.

10-04-2006 12:53 PM

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Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
minx12
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I never did understand the lack of desire on the part of women not to breastfeed. The ones who physically can’t are one thing, but otherwise why not? You give your child absolutely best start in life, And because I worked I considered it especially important to breastfeed. I went to my daughters on my lunch hours and fed them, no matter which relative had them or if she was at daycare. I pumped everyday, three times a day to make sure they were fed. It can be done. And it was deeply fulfilling. My girks are tall for their age, are slender, smart and very rarely if ever get sick as a result. And don’t even get me started on the bonding experience. The lowering of my breast cancer risk didn’t even register as a benefit.

Can you tell I miss it?

Message Edited by minx12 on 10-04-200610:08 AM

10-04-2006 01:07 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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DumbBroad Wrote:

Well, you’ve never met me so you really can’t make an assessment one way or the other.

So then, I suppose by your logic it is sensible to NOT vote in say, the Presidential elections, because you have never met either of the candidates?

Excellent argument AGAINST women’s suffrage.

DumbBroad Wrote:

But thanks for proving my point that some of the discussions with men on this board have devolved into name calling rather than constructive dialogue.

You’re going to need to STFU about this before you do permanent damage to women’s reputation as capable even in the slightest of constructive dialog.

You are making no point in that statement. Anyone can look at the board and see insults from both sides.

Anyone can also see plenty of constructive dialog coming from the male side. Far more in fact than from the female side.

Your point, in the other thread, I believe was:

“Waaa you’re insulting us. Be nice to us!”

My first encounter with you was with you making an insulting (and illogical) comment.

Your post above contained no constructive dialog. It was a self-serving and unfounded expression of your perceived personal greatness.

That does not deserve a constructive response.

In both these cases, you got a constructive response, but with insults. Fair is fair, moron.

That was the correct response. You don’t like it, don’t be deserving of it. You will note, men have not bothered to complain as loudly as you about “insults” on here, rather we have merely returned the favour, just in a more truthful manner. Our main complaint has been “lack of constructive dialog” coming from your side, as all we can see are posts like the above.

Basically due to the fact that these complaints about “insults” are really complaints about “hurting my fweelings” and the fact that they were a legitimate response to more of the same arguing based on feelings rather than facts, you are drawing attention quite starkly to the female ineptitude for constructive dialog.

Good for you, lemming!

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-04-200610:05 PM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-04-2006 09:59 PM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
dumbbroad
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So then, I suppose by your logic it is sensible to NOT vote in say, the Presidential elections, because you have never met either of the candidates?

I was referring to the “pretty” comment. You have not seen me and therefore you cannot make a judgment, yes?

You’re going to need to STFU about this before you do permanent damage to women’s reputation as capable even in the slightest of constructive dialog. You are making no point in that statement. Anyone can look at the board and see insults from both sides.

A post questioned why some women left the board. I was discussing my own personal reasons for having backed off for a few days. Some of the discussions I was having were just going in circles so I took a break. I cannot speak for the other women on the board. That was just MY thought because someone asked.

Anyone can also see plenty of constructive dialog coming from the male side.

There was some constructive commentary coming from some male participants, yes.

Your point, in the other thread, I believe was: “Waaa you’re insulting us. Be nice to us!”

No, my point was, “Insulting me is not helping me see your point or making me believe you wish to learn more about mine.”

My first encounter with you was with you making an insulting (and illogical) comment.

I looked briefly, but I can’t find our first exchange, if you would enlighten me. If it was insulting, I apologize.

Your post above contained no constructive dialog. It was a self-serving and unfounded expression of your perceived personal greatness. That does not deserve a constructive response.

My post above was in response to Happy Mom’s comment that an attractive wife was young, pretty, kind, maternal and pleasant. They were not my words. I took it to mean that she thought I might not have these qualities and I was simply saying that I believe I do. My looks, kindness, maternal instincts and level of pleasantries might not appeal to all, naturally, but on the whole, I do not find myself to be ugly, mean, anti-children or unpleasant. I imagine you do not find yourself to be any of those either and if you had said so, that would be fine.

In both these cases, you got a constructive response, but with insults. Fair is fair, moron.

I didn’t get a response, really. The topic was whether or not a woman in her early 30’s had any hope of every being married or having children. I don’t believe you touched on that.

That was the correct response. You don’t like it, don’t be deserving of it. You will note, men have not bothered to complain as loudly as you about “insults” on here , rather we have merely returned the favour, just in a more truthful manner.

Perhaps not, but they did ask why some had opted to leave or take a break and that was the reason for me. If someone had not asked or declared “victory” over the board, I doubt the topic would’ve come up – on my part anyway.

Our main complaint has been “lack of constructive dialog” coming from your side, as all we can see are posts like the above.

I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’m very wiling to debate whatever topic on this board I feel capable to address.

Basically due to the fact that these complaints about “insults” are really complaints about “hurting my fweelings” and the fact that they were a legitimate response to more of the same arguing based on feelings rather than facts, you are drawing attention quite starkly to the female ineptitude for constructive dialog.

I assure you, no feelings were hurt. The only feeling I felt eventually was frustration. There have been some interesting points brought up in the last day or two, however, so perhaps an interesting dialogue will again follow.

Good for you, lemming!

I haven’t mindlessly followed anyone’s assertion on this board, so I hardly see how that moniker applies.

10-05-2006 12:11 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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Oh yeah, it’s coming back now, you’re the effing moron that repeats comments that have already been dealt with and makes me repeat myself.

I was referring to the “pretty” comment. You have not seen me and therefore you cannot make a judgment, yes?

No. Read it again. I made no judgement on that particular self-serving statement. I stated that YOU were an unreliable judge of this. On the rest I could. So I did.

Also it could be complete B.S. so it has no place in constructive dialog.

I was discussing my own personal reasons for having backed off for a few days.

Which could be complete B.S. so it has no place in constructive dialog.

Some of the discussions I was having were just going in circles so I took a break.

Uh this post of yours is a shining example of someone repeating things that have already been addressed and non-constructive dialog, that is a focus on “you’re mean for not taking me seriously”. I’d say you’re a main contributor to this state of affairs. So try dealing with it, retard.

No, my point was, “Insulting me is not helping me see your point

Why don’t you just say, “disagreeing with me is not helping me see your point” because that is what this boils down to.

Frankly if you see my point that I, and other men, honestly believe you, and other women like you, to be self-centred and retarded pieces of dog turd, and that we find that highly unattractive, you will have seen my main point. So I’m sure you’d find my point highly insulting, which leaves me with a bit of a conundrum if I don’t insult you.

or making me believe you wish to learn more about mine.”

Then, you clueless wonder, here’s a subtle hint for you: I DON’T. I already know enough about your point of view, that the world revolves around you so people should pay attention to your subjective emotional needs no matter how ridiculous or how much trouble they cause other people, and it disgusts me.

I looked briefly, but I can’t find our first exchange, if you would enlighten me. If it was insulting, I apologize.

1. I’m not obligated to hold your hand, or go to any lengths to debate any objections you have no matter how ridiculously stupid or inane they are.

2. Don’t bother with an apology for your other insults. The post surrounding it insults my intelligence.

I didn’t get a response, really. The topic was whether or not a woman in her early 30’s had any hope of every being married or having children. I don’t believe you touched on that.

Actually the topic was “career women lemmings have an increased risk of breast cancer”. So you are being selective about the topic. Trying to define it to meet your needs.

And I *DID* address that point. You’re just so much of an effing moron that I’d have to go through them point by point, then I suppose you’d think it was “constructive dialog” if we debated the meaning of every single word in every single sentence.

If someone had not asked or declared “victory” over the board, I doubt the topic would’ve come up – on my part anyway.

Garbage. Our involvement on this board has been limited to you complaining about insults, while being insulting.

I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’m very wiling to debate whatever topic on this board I feel capable to address.

No we won’t. You can get your act together and act like a sensible person or get used to not being treated like one. Either way I don’t care. Choose option B (or C) and you get insults, wench.

And I’m sure you are willing to spew as much crap as you can manage seeing as you’ve shown an enormous proclivity to argue irrelevant points and make me repeat myself.

I assure you, no feelings were hurt. The only feeling I felt eventually was frustration.

Two contradictory statements right next to each other. Which could be complete B.S. so have no place in constructive dialog.

I haven’t mindlessly followed anyone’s assertion on this board, so I hardly see how that moniker applies.

Oh we are now going to “debate” the meaning of my use of the word “lemming”? My original use of it was very clearly “someone who does something against their best interests”. And BTW, by following “feminism” you ARE mindlessly following other people’s assertions. Limiting the scope of the definition to this board is manipulative (as usual). I know I know you think you have good reason to follow feminists, but then lemmings thought something similar. So I guess your stupid definition applies to you anyway.

Yes, let us debate the meaning of all words in all posts on this board shall we? That will be most constructive. Let’s start with “constructive”, or “words”, or hey pick a random one. How about we debate the meaning of “meaning”, just so you can try and get a foothold by which you can be taken seriously for idiocy.

You’re REALLY good at this constructive dialog thing you like to claim you care about so much.

Thankyou for (again) proving my point you MORE than deserve the insults and (again) proving the point that there is a feminist ineptitude for having a constructive dialog, lemmmiinnnggggg.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-05-200602:47 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-05-2006 02:00 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
dumbbroad
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dumbbroad

Well that was quite the post, and it appears that it is you who is incapable of constructive dialogue since every point I make is dismissed as garbage. If you’re not interested in my point of view, why are you responding to me? I am interested in why you feel the way you do, which is why I have persisted, but it’s a bit hard to ignore being called an effing moron (twice), a retard, a self-centered and retarded piece of dog turd, a clueless wonder, and a stupid and idiotic wench.  Throw in a “dumb b*tch” and it might be hard to tell you and tellafriend apart.

10-05-2006 09:48 AM

Re: Speaking of Lemmings : Breast cancer cases rise 80% since 70s (CAREER GIRLS AGAIN)
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet

If you’re not interested in my point of view, why are you responding to me?

Are you not able to grasp concepts beyond those which fawningly serve your interests? Must be frustrating for you. What’s that? It is? WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD MORON.

And oh are you saying I responded to your points? Glad you effing noticed that I did that. Now look at the result.

“Responding” does not equal “interested in point of view”. It seems we’re going to end our interchange on another blatant non-sequitur from you once again.

Oh and to your garbage, and it IS garbage, which is WHY it is dismissed as garbage (see the cause and effect relationship?) the tellafriend response is entirely appropriate. A polite response would simply not be fair or reasonable.

So, go fetch your stick you dumb biitch. Preferably one with a clue about how to get over yourself on it.

Oh and you might want to avoid posting unfounded and self-serving comments on here in the future. If you do that you got a point (but don’t get a gold star, because you’re still well in moron territory), proving my approach appropriate – if you don’t do that, you’ve proven yourself incapable of getting a point (not to mention illogical and narcissistic). Reality sucks huh? You get, like you know, held accountable and stuff. Back to the drawing board with those manipulation techniques, lemming!

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 10-06-200601:55 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

10-06-2006 01:49 AM

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