Men are smarter than women


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Men are smarter than women
khankrumthebulg
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khankrumthebulg
By Ben Clerkin and Fiona Macrae
September 18, 2006 12:00

IT’S a debate that has raged for centuries but controversial research on intelligence is guaranteed to delight men – and infuriate the women in their lives.

A recent study claims men really are cleverer than women.

The research – carried out by a man – concludes men’s IQs are almost four points higher than women’s.

British-born researcher John Philippe Rushton, who was once criticised for suggesting intelligence is influenced by race, says the finding could explain why so few women make it to the top in the workplace. He claims the “glass ceiling” phenomenon is probably due to inferior intelligence rather than discrimination or lack of opportunity.

The University of Western Ontario psychologist reached his conclusion after analysing university aptitude tests of 100,000 students aged 17 and 18.

A focus on factors such as the ability to quickly grasp a complex concept, verbal reasoning skills and creativity – some of the key ingredients of intelligence – revealed the male teenagers had IQs 3.63 points higher on average.

“These are unpopular conclusions . . . (but) we have the right to find the truth,” Professor Rushton said.

The findings overturn a 100-year consensus that men and women average the same in general mental ability. They also conflict with evidence girls do better in school exams than boys.

But Professor Rushton argues the quick maturing of girls leads them to beat boys in the classroom.

And since almost all previous data showing an absence of difference between the sexes was gathered on schoolchildren, the gender difference could easily have been missed.

Although experts have accepted men and women differ mentally, it was assumed the differences averaged out. Professor Rushton believes the differences link to brain size, with studies showing men having slightly bigger brains than women.

It is thought the difference may date back to the Stone Age, with women seeking more intelligent men to pass on the best genes to their children.

Other scientists are unmoved. Anthropologist Simon Underdown, of Oxford Brookes University, said: “Statistics can prove almost anything.”

And Dr Gill Samuels, Greenfield Report on women in science co-author, said: “Success depends on a number of factors, IQ is just one of them.”

However Professor Rushton’s work, published in the journal Intelligence, appears to confirm other research showing men have bigger brains and higher IQs than women.

An study of more than 20,000 reasoning tests from university students around the world revealed women’s IQs are up to five points lower than men’s.

But women needn’t feel despondent, with scientists saying they can achieve just as much as men – as long as they work harder.

11-03-2006 06:09 PM

Re: Men are smarter than women
phatkat811
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phatkat811
The standard deviation for IQ is 15 points. 3.63 points is trivial.

11-03-2006 06:41 PM

Re: Men are smarter than women
Happy_Bullet
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hahah moron as usual.

Th standard deviation in IQ tests is “around” 15. Know what that means? They measure IQ in around 15 point groups because that’s as specific as “standard” IQ tests get.

Now do you understand what an average is?

IQ is measured in INTEGERS, therefore the standard deviation is 1, or we’d divide everyone’s IQ by 15 and go with that.

Women like you are pathetic fatbat.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 11-04-200612:28 AM

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

11-04-2006 12:27 AM

Re: Men are smarter than women
PatriarchVerlch
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That explains why civilization has come from the minds of men. We would still be living in highly organized glass huts if men were not motivated to build bridges, roads, wires, all over the kingdoms. Men are men for a reason.

Women have been proving for the last 30 years that men have been right for the last 30 centuries!
http://www.verlch.blogspot.com

11-04-2006 02:34 AM

Re: Men are smarter than women
phatkat811
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phatkat811

Happy_Bullet wrote:
hahah moron as usual.
Th standard deviation in IQ tests is “around” 15. Know what that means? They measure IQ in around 15 point groups because that’s as specific as “standard” IQ tests get.
Now do you understand what an average is?
IQ is measured in INTEGERS, therefore the standard deviation is 1, or we’d divide everyone’s IQ by 15 and go with that.
Women like you are pathetic fatbat.

Message Edited by Happy_Bullet on 11-04-200612:28 AM

Standard deviation has nothing to do with dividing. Why would you ever divide test results by the sd??

The standard deviation in IQ tests IS 15 because the mean is always 100. Why did you bold TESTS? An IQ test is the only way to possibly measure an IQ. They do not measure in around 15 point groups, or else everyone’s IQ would be 60, 85, 100, 115, or 130 exactly. That is not the case. It is measured in integers, as your second theory states. (Couldn’t make up your mind?)

The standard deviation does not change. It cannot go from 15 to 1. One is the integer that is used on the scale, but it cannot be the SD. The rule is that 68% of scores are within one SD of the mean, 95% are within two, and 99.7% are within three. By your logic, 99.7% of the population would have an IQ of 97-103.

11-04-2006 12:29 PM

Re: Men are smarter than women
jimp
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phatkat811,

You’re totally clueless, which is what one would expect from a woman. The standard deviation of 1 IQ test is 15. If you take a mean of 50,000 test scores, the standard deviation of the MEAN is 15 / squared root of 50,000 or 15/224 = 0.06, so the difference 4 I.Q. points is about 60 standard deviations.

11-05-2006 01:52 PM

Re: Men are smarter than women
Happy_Bullet
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Happy_Bullet
HAHA

It will have to be explained to her like ten times before it dawns on her.

Fatbat, just read the posts again ten times, or until you understand it.

Statistical evidence followed by empirical evidence.

LOL…

Men have standards. Women will be compared. DEAL WITH IT.

11-06-2006 01:18 AM

Re: Men are smarter than women
phatkat811
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phatkat811
What, because you guys are redefining math terms??

There is no such thing as a mean of 50,000 because the mean is THE AVERAGE OF ALL THE SCORES. The mean will always be 100.

Although according to your buddy (I notice Happy, you’re done providing evidence and you’re back to being a cheerleader/towel-snapper), my IQ would actually be 480 standard deviations from the norm, which would put me in what, the top .0000000000000000000000000000001% of the population? While I’m flattered, I’ve never thought myself to be on that level.

11-06-2006 06:11 AM

Re: Men are smarter than women
jimp
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phatkat811 wrote:
What, because you guys are redefining math terms??

There is no such thing as a mean of 50,000 because the mean is THE AVERAGE OF ALL THE SCORES. The mean will always be 100.

Although according to your buddy (I notice Happy, you’re done providing evidence and you’re back to being a cheerleader/towel-snapper), my IQ would actually be 480 standard deviations from the norm, which would put me in what, the top .0000000000000000000000000000001% of the population? While I’m flattered, I’ve never thought myself to be on that level.

You’re not even wrong, you’re just completely clueless.

The standard deviation of 15 you’re talking about refers to the fact that the test is normalized in such a way that if you take 100,000 test scores, and compute the standard deviation of those scores, you’ll get about 15 (and the mean will be very close to 100).

Therefore, 15 is the standard deviation of an INDIVIDUAL TEST SCORE. If you take the AVERAGE of say 100 test scores, the standard deviation of that AVERAGE TEST SCORE will be 15 / sqrt(100), or 1.5. In other words, if you take your 100,000 people that took the test, and break them up into 1000 groups of 100 people each, then compute the average IQ test score FOR EACH GROUP, the standard deviation of those 1000 group averages will be about 1.5.

Therefore, if you break up the 100,000 people into roughly equal groups of men and women, if men and women were actually equally smart, there is simply no way you would see a difference of 3.6 IQ points.

11-06-2006 08:43 AM

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